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Post by taffin on Oct 4, 2021 9:59:00 GMT -5
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 4, 2021 11:20:25 GMT -5
kevshell.... drove my old brass gripfarme Super Blackhawk across thee country to compete in the first IHMSA championship. Campaigned that sixgun hard in the early days, making a discovery along the way: the five screws holding a brass grip frame stay tight notably longer than screws mounting a steel grip frame. Aside from its visual depth, I like the feel of brass. For precision with performance in a single action grip frame, the road leads straight to RWGR. David Bradshaw
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Post by desertminer on Oct 4, 2021 11:28:44 GMT -5
I personally love the look and feel of a brass grip frame. I prefer my grip frames to be heavier rather than lighter so if I could change over all my revolvers to have brass grip frames I would. In my book, there is not a better looking firearm than a blued sixgun with a brass grip frame and dark wood grips. But as many have said before, it all comes down to personal preference.
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Post by kevshell on Oct 4, 2021 22:01:59 GMT -5
Well...the build is set in stone. I have a Bisley 6 shot 45 colt with an oversized cylinder, octagon barrel, patridge sight with gold hash marks and........a brass grip frame. I've seen the wood and I believe it's going to be a stunning piece. And of course now I have to send in 2 more donors now that this itch is being scratched. I'll post up the gun soon (I hope).
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Post by rufus on Nov 24, 2021 21:52:16 GMT -5
How much fitting is required with the Ronnie Wells Brass Grip frame ? I bought a Bisley, flat top, 44 special about 5 years ago. It is one of the newer production models and I think it would look sweet with a brass grip frame on it.
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Post by tdbarton on Nov 24, 2021 21:59:32 GMT -5
How much fitting is required with the Ronnie Wells Brass Grip frame ? I bought a Bisley, flat top, 44 special about 5 years ago. It is one of the newer production models and I think it would look sweet with a brass grip frame on it. Anyone with some patience and some files can pull it off/. They’re oversized intentionally so they can be perfectly fitted for each gun.
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 24, 2021 22:16:58 GMT -5
What's the opinion on brass grip frames? I like the look on some builds but I don't know if they are a pain in the butt to maintain or whether there are other downsides. I am looking at a 6 shot 45 colt oversized cylinder build in a similar configuration as the one attached. I am torn on a few details but I am basically hung up on whether to do the brass frame or not. ***** Whether you perform final fit, or have someone else do it, a brass Ronnie Wells grip frame is a dream to work with. In the early days of IHMSA silhouette, I campaigned an old model Super Blackhawk with brass grip frame and Ruger’s standard plain walnut scales. Discovered the screws hold tight much longer than when clamping a steel grip frame. Brass stays polished when you use the revolver. Weight seems the same as steel. Brass & Blue are beautiful. I started to finish the RWGF brass Bradshaw Bisley to the Ruger 03 in grave doubt the combination of stainless and brass could pass aesthetic muster. Not only is the RWGF better for my hand, it is a powerful aesthetic of great practicality. David Bradshaw
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Post by dhd on Nov 25, 2021 8:30:09 GMT -5
How much fitting is required with the Ronnie Wells Brass Grip frame ? I bought a Bisley, flat top, 44 special about 5 years ago. It is one of the newer production models and I think it would look sweet with a brass grip frame on it. Some use files and some use sandpaper. I use a surface plate and the stick on rolls of paper in different grits. Radius areas i ended up using a dremel with cratex wheels at a sane speed and finish up with some round stock with the stick on paper. The only area where I was concerned was where the cylinder frame and gripframe meet around the hammer. You just have to decide the angle that's pleasing to your eye. My shooting partner and I have done 4 now. In truth the only hard part is making the grips fit your hand the way you want and that is the most personal detail of all. That stated, fitting the grips to your hand is one of those things that when you do it yourself, you have complete control of the final product. Being spoiled now I can't imagine not being able to fit my own grips. I suspect if you're nice to Ronnie (and possibly tell him he's handsone) he'll send some nice figured wood with the gripframe...
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Post by kevshell on Nov 25, 2021 8:46:27 GMT -5
What's the opinion on brass grip frames? I like the look on some builds but I don't know if they are a pain in the butt to maintain or whether there are other downsides. I am looking at a 6 shot 45 colt oversized cylinder build in a similar configuration as the one attached. I am torn on a few details but I am basically hung up on whether to do the brass frame or not. ***** Whether you perform final fit, or have someone else do it, a brass Ronnie Wells grip frame is a dream to work with. In the early days of IHMSA silhouette, I campaigned an old model Super Blackhawk with brass grip frame and Ruger’s standard plain walnut scales. Discovered the screws hold tight much longer than when clamping a steel grip frame. Brass stays polished when you use the revolver. Weight seems the same as steel. Brass & Blue are beautiful. I started to finish the RWGF brass Bradshaw Bisley to the Ruger 03 in grave doubt the combination of stainless and brass could pass aesthetic muster. Not only is the RWGF better for my hand, it is a powerful aesthetic of great practicality. David Bradshaw Thank you David. This was the post where I was looking to narrow down my choices after a long wait. It was my turn to go on the table so I had to get off the pot. Ultimately I am thrilled with the final result. I am liking the blue and brass. I could see the stainless and brass as being an interesting combo. But with only so many choices I doubt I'll end up with one unless something drops in my lap. I've already got 3 other custom donors which already have a direction. The RGW frames interest me and I might take on a project at some point but I'll still need someone to reblue it since perfectionist blending will likely mar the original finish. I completely agree about a frame and grips made correctly. A good set of grips and a good frame make you disappointed in standard fare. Ultimately the feedback above and elsewhere on this forum are what led to this project and selections. I really like the Hank Sloan holster from Barranti as well. It carries well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 9:16:39 GMT -5
Great guns. I have one of Docs Hank Sloan holsters for 5 1/2 Blackhawk and I agree it's great. I do have an issue where I hit the hammer guard with the muzzle when holstering, but with a few practice draws before setting out, I get the groove.
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 25, 2021 11:10:51 GMT -5
The RGW frames interest me and I might take on a project at some point but I'll still need someone to reblue it since perfectionist blending will likely mar the original finish. I completely agree about a frame and grips made correctly. ----kevshell
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At such time I may fit a Ronnie Wells Grip Frame to a blued frame, I’ll take my sweet time to get it right without marring the blue. I do the match-up on stainless frames without subjecting the frame to abrasive action. For one thing brass is soft compared to steel. Ruger frames, as with all proper revolver frames, are heat treated, which makes them tougher and harder. For me, a belt sander is the prime power tool in the equation. A belt sander makes faster, smoother work of matching backstrap to frame, and taking down the sides to blend with the bottom strap and rear of frame.
I use a Dremel with 1/2” drum sander to contour the trigger guard. Final fit & finish comes through fine WET SANDPAPER. Sometimes I work at the sink with running water. Dry emery/sand paper plugs quickly and wears out quickly. I think Ronnie and Lee may drop to finer grit for final go. 400 grit is as fine as I need. I have yet to buff on a wheel.
Belt sander * Unsupported belt----contour the backstrap. * Belt on “table”----dress sides of grip frame.
Dremel, Foredom, or air powered straight grinder * Trigger guard.
Wet/dry emery/sandpaper * Curved surface----finger, dowel, palm. * Flat surface----dead flat piece of steel, brass, or tempered glass.
Caution: avoid using coarse belt or paper at approach of finished dimension! David Bradshaw
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Post by bigbore5 on Nov 25, 2021 12:56:49 GMT -5
The RGW frames interest me and I might take on a project at some point but I'll still need someone to reblue it since perfectionist blending will likely mar the original finish. I completely agree about a frame and grips made correctly. ----kevshell ***** At such time I may fit a Ronnie Wells Grip Frame to a blued frame, I’ll take my sweet time to get it right without marring the blue. I do the match-up on stainless frames without subjecting the frame to abrasive action. For one thing brass is soft compared to steel. Ruger frames, as with all proper revolver frames, are heat treated, which makes them tougher and harder. For me, a belt sander is the prime power tool in the equation. A belt sander makes faster, smoother work of matching backstrap to frame, and taking down the sides to blend with the bottom strap and rear of frame. I use a Dremel with 1/2” drum sander to contour the trigger guard. Final fit & finish comes through fine WET SANDPAPER. Sometimes I work at the sink with running water. Dry emery/sand paper plugs quickly and wears out quickly. I think Ronnie and Lee may drop to finer grit for final go. 400 grit is as fine as I need. I have yet to buff on a wheel. Belt sander* Unsupported belt----contour the backstrap. * Belt on “table”----dress sides of grip frame. Dremel, Fordam, or air powered straight grinder* Trigger guard. Wet/dry emery/sandpaper* Curved surface----finger, dowel, palm. * Flat surface----dead flat piece of steel, brass, or tempered glass. Caution: avoid using coarse belt or paper at approach of finished dimension! David Bradshaw I do alot of the shaping with a band file too. Works great and they aren't expensive at all for a light duty one. You don't need a Metabo, Amazon china will do for this kind of work.
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Post by squawberryman on Nov 25, 2021 13:54:25 GMT -5
Looked up metabo band file. Wowza
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Post by aciera on Nov 25, 2021 17:02:16 GMT -5
Looked up metabo band file. Wowza Dynabrade(spl?) is an air powered option. PM sent
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 25, 2021 19:28:45 GMT -5
My work on grip frame is done OFF THE FRAME. It is too easy for a power tool or hand tool to make contact with the frame. I mark grip frame overlap with a Sharpie Fine Point Marker. Slow & steady. Better to install & remove grip frame numerous times than to overdo sanding or filing once. David Bradshaw
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