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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on May 31, 2020 15:36:02 GMT -5
Hi Everyone,
I currently have a chronograph from competition electronics. Works great most of the time but seems to be susceptible to muzzle blast. I'm looking to replace it in the near future.
The Oehler has a near perfect reputation. But, for $600, I am nervous as all get out that O will blast it by accident. I've only ever shot the rods holding up the screen. But were I to miss and hit the current chrony, I'm out around $120.
I've heard mostly good things about the Labradar. It wont be effected by blast, and it will not be in the line of fire. Thus negating my worry of shooting it.
What experiences do you fellas have with these?
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Post by zeus on May 31, 2020 16:01:47 GMT -5
I use the radar personally
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Post by bushog on May 31, 2020 17:31:39 GMT -5
I use the radar personally Do you have to be a rocket scientist to figure out how to use it? I get enough of that.... |
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Post by 500fksjr on May 31, 2020 18:27:52 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, I currently have a chronograph from competition electronics. Works great most of the time but seems to be susceptible to muzzle blast. I'm looking to replace it in the near future. The Oehler has a near perfect reputation. But, for $600, I am nervous as all get out that O will blast it by accident. I've only ever shot the rods holding up the screen. But were I to miss and hit the current chrony, I'm out around $120. I've heard mostly good things about the Labradar. It wont be effected by blast, and it will not be in the line of fire. Thus negating my worry of shooting it. What experiences do you fellas have with these? I can admit that I have had 2 Oehler's in the last 15 yrs...I am saving for the Labradar. Oh yes I shot both of them and can say with a 500 L the damage is quite complete...fwiw |
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Post by zeus on May 31, 2020 19:07:04 GMT -5
I use the radar personally Do you have to be a rocket scientist to figure out how to use it? I get enough of that.... It’s super simple. Never have anything in front of you. Links to your phone if you want and it can record all the data etc. also records on a camera card. Even works well with suppressors. |
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Post by bradshaw on May 31, 2020 19:08:54 GMT -5
Ken Oehler computation and Sky-Screens redefined the chronograph. Bullet damage to a Sky Screen nearly always is the result of the shooter not putting up a target, or having the Sky Screens out of alignment between firearm & target. Incorrect readings are usually due to imprecise spacing between Start and Stop screens. Oehler chronographs tend to last decades.
Having not used the Lab Radar, it is a great concept. I haven’t heard anything Lab Radar service life, or what overhaul entails. As I see it, Lab Radar offers two major advantages:
1) convenient set-up without sensors in from of firing line.
2) ability to take multiple velocity readings between muzzle & 100 yards. Permits calculation of Ballistic Coefficient and effect of velocity on air drag.
David Bradshaw
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Post by zeus on May 31, 2020 19:15:42 GMT -5
BC could be calculated of course but we true our data on rifles at 2000-2500 yards. It’s easy then to adjust BCs and true data to start developing a custom curve basically. We will shoot our rifles at 3700 yards this summer over the radar/lidar to get full curve out past two miles on a couple of bullets. It will help fine tune vertical calcs for these rifles.
I don’t worry about BC on handguns honestly. The LabRadar is worth the money to me as I can pull up at the range and set up my radar without ever being in front of the bench. You can hook up external battery packs and microphone even to help with triggering the unit if you need to.
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Post by gjn on May 31, 2020 23:52:16 GMT -5
I have both and would recommend the Ladradar unless you need to to read anything over 3800 FPS. The LabRadar sets up in minutes, is simple to use, works very well and there is nothing out in front of you to hit. I keep the Oehler as I have several rifles in 17, 20 and 22 that shoot well over 3800 FPS which is beyond the ability of the LabRadar to read.
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Post by contender on Jun 1, 2020 8:38:58 GMT -5
I have no personal experience with the LabRadar,, except studying them at SHOT.
I do own a Ohler,, and have had it for a few decades. Never shot a skyscreen,, as I make sure all things are properly aligned before the first shot is fired. I like my old school printer,, as I don't have to worry about being electronic computer whiz to connect to a phone, or whatever. Shoot, print, and study.
David makes two very valid points,, and it's part of why I have studied them a bit.
But since my Ohler is working quite well, I see no need to change anything. I have the Model 35P, and it has never failed me. But if I were to loser it,, I'd study the LabRadar closer.
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Post by zeus on Jun 1, 2020 20:30:31 GMT -5
 This is how we use ours. We use either a quad pod like this or a tripod and have it over the gun. We can even shoot it like this for a match. Helps a lots of you do and watch each shot. Say you shoot low or high but velocity is 15 off one way or the other. Doesn’t seem like a big deal but at 2000 plus yards, it can be a miss. If you didn’t know velocity was off and made an adjustment, and next shot velocity is right, you miss again versus knowing to use same hold and send it with no corrections. Can’t do that with any other type chrono as easily. And these big guns, the screens wouldn’t last I imagine. Hahaha |
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Jun 2, 2020 5:58:30 GMT -5
Well, I'm sold on the Labradar. I shoot lots of powerful guns and having my chronograph NOT at risk is really enticing.
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Post by zeus on Jun 2, 2020 8:14:49 GMT -5
Well, I'm sold on the Labradar. I shoot lots of powerful guns and having my chronograph NOT at risk is really enticing. You’ll be happy. That gun in the pic is pushing a 615 grain .458 solid at 3150. Blast is substantial to say the least and radar is perfect. |
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Post by flyingzebra on Jun 2, 2020 9:06:53 GMT -5
Is there an outfitter who consistently sells the Labradar at a reduced price?
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Post by zeus on Jun 2, 2020 9:23:48 GMT -5
No. They have a pretty solid MAP program and not over run with dealers/distributors so prices are usually always the same.
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Post by leftysixgun on Jun 2, 2020 9:41:03 GMT -5
This is hear say, but is there any truth to the Radar chrono NOT being reliable in the .22 caliber area? Example the .223?
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