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Post by duckjihad on Apr 17, 2020 7:57:05 GMT -5
On various forms I see people refer to a 44 special Keith load that pushes a 250 grain bullet to 1250 ft./s. I got a couple of different loading manuals and I can’t find anything that’s endorsed by a established reloading table. That sounds too hot for a spcl but ok if you’re shooting spcls in a 44 mag. I’d like to find an endorsed load that pushes a 240 grain bullet to around 1000 ft./s in a 44 special. Is anyone aware of any official data in that neighborhood?
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Post by Encore64 on Apr 17, 2020 8:00:41 GMT -5
Yes, but which gun are you going to use it in?
Like the different 45 Colt loads, the gun really matters.
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Post by Fowler on Apr 17, 2020 8:12:21 GMT -5
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Post by magman on Apr 17, 2020 8:31:44 GMT -5
If you follow the guidelines in the articles that Fowler posted you'll be okay.
To quote Dirty Harry, a man's got to know his gun's limitations. Or something like that.
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Post by duckjihad on Apr 17, 2020 9:21:33 GMT -5
For use in FA97
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Post by Encore64 on Apr 17, 2020 9:35:12 GMT -5
Best revolver ever!!! Fowler posted great data links... |
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Post by bradshaw on Apr 17, 2020 10:39:06 GMT -5
On various forms I see people refer to a 44 special Keith load that pushes a 250 grain bullet to 1250 ft./s. I got a couple of different loading manuals and I can’t find anything that’s endorsed by a established reloading table. That sounds too hot for a spcl but ok if you’re shooting spcls in a 44 mag. I’d like to find an endorsed load that pushes a 240 grain bullet to around 1000 ft./s in a 44 special. Is anyone aware of any official data in that neighborhood? ***** You are wise not to pretend the .44 Special is a .44 Magnum. From the same .44 Special revolver, there is a giant pressure difference between 1000 fps and 1250 fps. David Bradshaw |
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Post by potatojudge on Apr 17, 2020 12:18:35 GMT -5
I've had good luck with Brian Pearce's "Category 3" 200 grain XTP load. Conveniently, the 255 grain cast bullet runs the same charge of H110 so only the seating die on the Dillon needs to be adjusted to switch between the loads.
255 grains at 1100+ fps is plenty of a good thing in a FA 97, but as the article states it's for select strong guns. I don't know if I've seen an official statement on where the mid frame Ruger falls.
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Post by Encore64 on Apr 17, 2020 13:07:16 GMT -5
I've had good luck with Brian Pearce's "Category 3" 200 grain XTP load. Conveniently, the 255 grain cast bullet runs the same charge of H110 so only the seating die on the Dillon needs to be adjusted to switch between the loads. 255 grains at 1100+ fps is plenty of a good thing in a FA 97, but as the article states it's for select strong guns. I don't know if I've seen an official statement on where the mid frame Ruger falls. 25,000 psi... |
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Post by Fowler on Apr 17, 2020 14:01:07 GMT -5
You will probably run out of fun in a FA 97 before you run out of power capacity. I like Power Pistol for my 1000fps range loads, but the classic Skeeter is also hard to beat at 950fps...
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Post by paul105 on Apr 17, 2020 15:03:58 GMT -5
My 5 1/2" FA 97 chrono results:
All of following with:
Starline .44 special cases and WLP primers. Chrono was 5 long steps from muzzle and ammo temp was appox 55 deg F.
255gr Keith 429421
8.2gr Power Pistol 963 fps
10.2gr HS6 1,002 fps
17.0gr A2400 1,200 fps
300gr Mt Baldy SWC Keith
15.5gr 991 fps
16.2gr 1,047 fps
FWIW,
Paul
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Post by zeus on Apr 17, 2020 15:30:27 GMT -5
If you want 1250, shoot the magnum  |
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Post by potatojudge on Apr 17, 2020 16:15:49 GMT -5
If you want 1250, shoot the magnum FA 97 doesn’t come in a magnum unless Clements has reamed the cylinder |
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Post by zeus on Apr 17, 2020 16:22:24 GMT -5
Wasn’t my point. I just say grab another gun if you need that much horsepower. The little 97 is going to be jumpy when you get that hot. Whereas, a 44 will be pleasant and not stress the gun at all. I always grab the next gun up rather than push the smaller one right up to the limit. Personal preference sort of thing.
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Post by potatojudge on Apr 17, 2020 16:34:45 GMT -5
Wasn’t my point. I just say grab another gun if you need that much horsepower. If the gun will handle it safely then I don’t understand the artificial limitation, especially when a gun carries so nicely. The 97 also comes in 41 magnum, which is more like the 44 mag than the 44 special. Are we limiting those to special loads also? |
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