gsp7
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Post by gsp7 on Mar 5, 2020 15:31:27 GMT -5
What do you like ? I have to decide which of these two guns I should buy for a bear area packing gun I lean toward the 45 colt on day and the 44 mag the next day 44 mag ruger.com/products/newModelSuperBlackhawkBisley/specSheets/0818.html .45colt ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkConvertible/specSheets/0475.html www.johnlinebaughcustomsixguns.com/writings.
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Post by whitworth on Mar 5, 2020 15:34:44 GMT -5
Can we add the .480 Bisley? :-)
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Post by bigbrowndog on Mar 5, 2020 15:47:14 GMT -5
Both of those would be my personal minimums, regarding Grizzly or brown bears......480 or 454 would be where adequate would start for me,...and what I grab out of my safe when I’m in grizzly country is my little 500L. For black bear, either would be more than adequate.
Trapr
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Post by potatojudge on Mar 5, 2020 15:58:41 GMT -5
Super Redhawk in 454 or 480 or S&W 69/29
I can’t imagine choosing to handle a grizzly charge with a single action.
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Post by squigz on Mar 5, 2020 16:01:03 GMT -5
Super Redhawk in 454 or 480 or S&W 69/29 I can’t imagine choosing to handle a grizzly charge with a single action. Me either, but then there's these guys. Including Max! www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F71SPRFr_YCan we add the .480 Bisley? :-) I second the 480 in the 4 5/8" for packing.
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Post by Encore64 on Mar 5, 2020 16:01:47 GMT -5
I'd opt for a 480 Ruger at a minimum. S.A. or D.A. is each person's choice.
I want Ruger to build a 480 Ruger Toklat...
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rWt
.375 Atomic
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Post by rWt on Mar 5, 2020 16:20:01 GMT -5
Better be something you can fire rapid follow-up shots with accuracy while you are dealing with adrenaline! Double actions usually preferred, I would think.
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gsp7
.30 Stingray
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Post by gsp7 on Mar 5, 2020 16:33:30 GMT -5
Ok, Now Im lookin' at the SBH .480
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Post by whitworth on Mar 5, 2020 16:58:43 GMT -5
Better be something you can fire rapid follow-up shots with accuracy while you are dealing with adrenaline! Double actions usually preferred, I would think. I find single-actions infinitely faster and easier to shoot in heavy recoiling calibers than a DA revolver. But that’s just me.
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cable
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Post by cable on Mar 5, 2020 17:13:54 GMT -5
I have lived here in big bear country for over 35 years...…. nothing is more effective than a bacon-wrapped hand grenade
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Post by bigbrowndog on Mar 5, 2020 17:14:19 GMT -5
Recoil management determines return to firing condition, and then you need accuracy. Sure a DA can be fired “faster” by the average person, or so it would seem?!?! But sights need to be reacquired and in that amount of time a hammer can be recocked, much the same way that a really good pump shotgunner can run it faster than an average shooter can run an auto shotgun, and hit what they’re aiming at. The biggest benefit a DA revolver has against a SA is its ability to be fired one handed.
You need accuracy in order for a handgun to be effective, RIGHT NOW!!! Against a bear attack, I’d rather one accurate shot than an empty gun and an occasional hit.
Trapr
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lws
.30 Stingray
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Post by lws on Mar 5, 2020 18:04:43 GMT -5
Better be something you can fire rapid follow-up shots with accuracy while you are dealing with adrenaline! Double actions usually preferred, I would think. I find single-actions infinitely faster and easier to shoot in heavy recoiling calibers than a DA revolver. But that’s just me. I am in agreement with Whitworth on this. when I was younger , 1950s through the 80s I hunted with hounds. Our state outlawed hound hunting in the 90s . some of the fellas bought the Blackhawks in 357 thinking it was the kill all gun. I was packing a colt SA in 44-40. when I was able to I got a SBH 44 magnum. I never felt under gunned , but I always shoot heavy bullets 270-300gr.. When the action get hairy you have to be able to hit what your shooting at period. I can still shoot my 44 pretty fast and hit what I'm shooting at. Practice Practice Practice ! If you can't hit a Bull in the butt with a skillet you don't need a skillet.
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Post by oddshooter on Mar 5, 2020 18:57:22 GMT -5
My wife and I've been 3 feet away from a very angry, pissed off, ill-tempered, mad-dog mean, grizzly. We were just outside Glacier Park on the Blackfoot Reservation sleeping in a tent. Live and learn or learn to die.
I can only tell you that a cannon is not enough.
Prescut
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princeout
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Post by princeout on Mar 5, 2020 19:40:03 GMT -5
Bear guns The story passed to me about the top gun, a Gallagher built 500 Linebaugh, is that John built it for a friend as a fishing carry gun for Alaska. Guess that qualifies it as a bear gun. It is a handful with 525 grains Miha bullets over full loads of H110. Pics of my hand after firing it (forgot my glove) can be found elsewhere on the forum. The bottom gun is my own general carry gun. My son, however, has carried it while elk hunting as backup. Loaded with 340 grain bullets over a full load of H110, it is also an attention getter, though less so than the Gallagher. It has a modified Bisley hammer, BP chamfer, a proper freespin set up and, just for Bushog, a trigger overtravel stop. Work by me, mostly with Hamilton looking over my shoulder. Factory fake case color, well rusted, worn, scratched and oiled. My highest round count revolver. Tim
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nicholst55
.375 Atomic
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Post by nicholst55 on Mar 5, 2020 20:21:36 GMT -5
My personal take is that one will be fortunate to get off a single aimed shot before the bear is, literally, on top of them. DA or SA isn't going to matter at that point. Pick a suitable gun that you shoot well, and practice extensively shooting at bouncing, bobbing football-sized targets.
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