Sevilles

[shoothog]

JI need some help with value of these Sevilles. Have boxes for each and condition very good to excellent. Qwik kits have same serial number with stainless having the S suffix.

[win1894s]

Nice guns. I have a consecutive pair of the tucson bird heads. Unfired

[oddshooter]

I may not be the best to ask advice on price. I have a conflict of interest.
I may want to purchase them.

I haven't seen a Quik Kit being sold at shows or on GB.   I haven't seen a Seville in 45 Colt ever.  My 45 Colt is an Abilene (4 years ago $800).

Lone Sevilles have been on an upward trend. My guesstimate is around $1000. It really seems to depend on the caliber !!!
The Sevilles in 357 Maximum have gone NUTS. 2 sold at $1600 and $2700 (2 rich guys bidding against each other)


Is number 2, the long tube one, also a 45 Colt?  The 45 Colts seem more rare than the 44 mags seen everywhere.  I'm guessing the 45 Colt in the Abilene is easily over $1,000 now.


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[Lee Martin]

Until recently, my rule of thumb on Sevilles was:

Qwik Kits - around $1,200 for 2 barrels and $1,500 for three
Stretch frames - $1,000 to $1,200
Standard frames, 4 5/8" - 7 1/2" - $700 to $800
Sheriff models - $800

I bought a bunch in this range. And gladly paid those clips. But of late, Sevilles are bringing stupid money on Gunbroker. Way more than I'm willing to pay.

-Lee
www.singleactions.com
"Chasing perfection five shots at a time"

[Sawfish]

I have a Seville Silhouette in .357 Maximum. Too nice to shoot.

[win1894s]

Mine are 45 colt I thought about using for Cowboy action but there to nice to use.

[silcott]

Feb 26, 2020 19:23:44 GMT -5 Sawfish said:

I have a Seville Silhouette in .357 Maximum. Too nice to shoot.

I’ve never considered a gun to nice to shoot. That’s like buying a new car and not driving it to keep the miles low for the next guy.

My father bought me a unfired in the box Ruger 357Max in 2006. His only request was that I shoot it. (Not keep it as a safe Queen) so the first thing I did was throw it on the mill to drill and tap it for a scope.

That’s just my 2 cents. Their just shaped wood and metal.

Justin

[gsp7]

Are the Sevilles for sale?


I Pmed you but I dont think my messaging works

[Lee Martin]

Many, but not all of my Sevilles, El Dorados, and Abilenes have been shot. But a word of caution – when parts break, and they can, you’re up a creek. There isn’t any replacement stock.

To put it lightly, Seville guts aren’t as robust as Ruger’s. They’re softer. I’ve received dozens of emails over the years regarding broken or worn internals. A couple of my Sevilles suffered similar fates. Fortunately, I had the parts and was able to fix them. The alternative would be to custom weld, grind, and/or fabricate from scratch. Prior to his death, John Himmelmann was attempting to produce pawls, bolts, and transfer bars for the Seville and El Dorado. Maybe one day I’ll take a stab at doing the same.

I’m not trying to scare anyone away from these guns. They’re exceptionally smooth single-actions. Just don’t lean on them too hard.

-Lee
www.singleactions.com
"Chasing perfection five shots at a time"

[goodtime]

I like to look at the actual market record to value a gun. To do this, have an account at a website such as gunbroker.com, (a large, national gun selling site just in case you're not familiar,) conduct an "advanced search" and click on "completed items." Then, look at listings that have actually resulted in a sale.

The value of an item is whatever a buyer and seller agree on; everything else is just theory.

I hope I have not violated any forum rules in mentioning a third party site.

[gsp7]

Many, but not all of my Sevilles, El Dorados, and Abilenes have been shot. But a word of caution – when parts break, and they can, you’re up a creek. There isn’t any replacement stock.

To put it lightly, Seville guts aren’t as robust as Ruger’s. They’re softer. I’ve received dozens of emails over the years regarding broken or worn internals. A couple of my Sevilles suffered similar fates. Fortunately, I had the parts and was able to fix them. The alternative would be to custom weld, grind, and/or fabricate from scratch. Prior to his death, John Himmelmann was attempting to produce pawls, bolts, and transfer bars for the Seville and El Dorado. Maybe one day I’ll take a stab at doing the same.

I’m not trying to scare anyone away from these guns. They’re exceptionally smooth single-actions. Just don’t lean on them too hard.

-Lee
www.singleactions.com
"Chasing perfection five shots at a time"

Good point,,,, I think I got the last to flat springs for my Abilene from numrich several years ago

So I just shopped for a .45 ruger bisley after reading that


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[bradshaw]

Feb 26, 2020 22:13:11 GMT -5 Lee Martin said:

Many, but not all of my Sevilles, El Dorados, and Abilenes have been shot. But a word of caution – when parts break, and they can, you’re up a creek. There isn’t any replacement stock.

To put it lightly, Seville guts aren’t as robust as Ruger’s. They’re softer. I’ve received dozens of emails over the years regarding broken or worn internals. A couple of my Sevilles suffered similar fates. Fortunately, I had the parts and was able to fix them. The alternative would be to custom weld, grind, and/or fabricate from scratch. Prior to his death, John Himmelmann was attempting to produce pawls, bolts, and transfer bars for the Seville and El Dorado. Maybe one day I’ll take a stab at doing the same.

I’m not trying to scare anyone away from these guns. They’re exceptionally smooth single-actions. Just don’t lean on them too hard.

-Lee
www.singleactions.com
"Chasing perfection five shots at a time"

*****

No revolver has matched RUGER LOCKWORK for for overall DURABILITY in Handgun Silhouette. Frames of the Freedom Arms Model 83, made by Ruger’s Pine Tree Castings in Newport, New Hampshire, are likewise tough. My take on original lockwork ranks Ruger at the very top, in both chromoly and stainless steel. I’ve never seen a proper trigger job hold up longer than Ruger’s through-hardened parts. There may be, out there, sear engagements equally tough and I just don’t know about. Yet, there isn’t the chance of a snowball in Hell that any have proven more durable on the Firing Lines of Steel.

My shooting of Sevilles in competition was limited by exactly the apprehension stated. Certainly wasn’t for lack of accuracy. The big frame Dan Wesson Arms Model 44 and its stretch-frame offspring, the Model 40, combined durability with accuracy at the highest level. DWA single action may be adjusted for a clean, light break, which together with fast lock time drove these guns to top championships. And while a proper DWA single action trigger holds indefinitely, the double action is a joke. I could grind through the DWA double action in two days of hard shooting; leastwise, within the week.

Had Magnum Research sent the BFR to silhouette, there may have been another contender. I suspect so, but cannot speculate further.
David Bradshaw

[oddshooter]

I am a hypocrite.   I believe it is sacrilege to not shoot a firearm. You are denying that hawgleg its purpose in being born.
As I have often said, It's like having the prettiest girl in town and never taking her dancing. She just sits at home being sad, but with a pretty face.


In all candor, I have three such abominations myself; one is a nichol Colt SAA second generation from 1967. She is beautiful and unfired.  Another is a United Sporting Arms Abilene in 45 Colt unfired; and a Ruger Max unfired.  I purchased them from original owners who had kept them in that virgin state for decades.
I find myself imagining how I would feel if I was one of a "chosen few" selected at birth to keep in a bubble and never be allowed to go out and experience life as it was intended.   

My life has been filled with bumps and bruises; and more than my fair share of fond memories, peak experiences, and a few scars. That is what has made me who I am. A shooter and not a collector.

I am psychicly conflicted; she is still sitting in the vault torturing me on a regular basis.

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The downside is I am currently sitting with a broken Abilene and no parts.

[Sawfish]

Just for clarification, My Seville has been shot, but no more. An old shooter once told me "Rare wines are made to be drank, beautiful women are made to be loved, and fine guns are made to be shot". I believe that and with rare exception no safe queens live at my house. However, I am well aware of the admonitions of Lee Martin concerning replacement parts, so I am very careful with my Seville and similar guns.

[shoothog]

gsp7. I received your pm and replied.