Shakey
.327 Meteor
Central Arkansas
Posts: 543
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Post by Shakey on Aug 4, 2018 12:55:54 GMT -5
Classy!
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Post by ddixie884 on Aug 4, 2018 19:34:10 GMT -5
Yeah, Kewl..............
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Post by bushog on Aug 5, 2018 14:03:44 GMT -5
It's pretty amazing how much lighter the M19 build feels than the 16-4 with the full underlug although it is 5 ounces heavier. Both barrels are 6" long. I think it has a lot to do with the underlug distributing the weight forward. Here.... singleactions.proboards.com/thread/22850/culina-grips-on-custom-16The M19 convertible is 37oz, a little lighter than a .32 Single Six bisley at Ruger's specs at 39oz.
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Post by rjm52 on Aug 7, 2018 5:25:02 GMT -5
BEAUTIFUL GUN!!!! What S&W should have made.... That is interesting that they used Model 18 cylinders... Bowen must have faced off the barrel to get it in deep enough to match the shorter cylinders... The Model 53 rimfire cylinder is the same length as a Model 19 Magnum cylinder and 17s and 18s are shorter .38 Special length... I had a 53 converted to .327 by Jack Huntington two years ago. The original barrel had been replaced because it was burned out and I had the rimfire cylinder. Jack rebored the original barrel and rechambered the rimfire cylinder so at some time in the fuuture it can be put back to original minus the .22 Long Rifle capability. I'm only running 85-100 grain bullets because the front sight isn't tall enough for anything heavier.... Since I also have a 6.5" FA 97 that runs nothing but 120-140s it isn't a big deal... And as was said, to switch cylinders, remove the front sideplate screw above the trigger, open the cylinder and withdraw the whole assembly out the front of the frame. Then pull the the cylinder off the crane and replace with the other cylinder. Slide the assembly back onto the frame, close the cylinder and replace the screw... Get a properly fitting screwdriver for the screw or one can bugger up things real quick... Also while you have the cylinder removed from the crane, clean everything real well and add just a drop of oil to all the bearing surfaces, the tip of the ejector rod, star and where the ejector rod goes into the crane. I've seen lots of Smiths that will barely turn because nobody takes the cylinder out and properly cleans it... Bob
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Post by rjm52 on Aug 7, 2018 5:29:26 GMT -5
HOLY S...! WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS? DID YOU GET THE CUSTOM WORK DONE OR DID YOU GET IT THAT WAY? TOO BAD BOWEN DOESN'T WORK ON S&W's ANYMORE, I HAVE GOT THE PARTS TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR. ...contact JRH Gunsmithing...Jack Huntington loves doing these conversions.... Bob
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Post by 45MAN on Aug 7, 2018 7:04:28 GMT -5
rjm52 (BOB): THANKS FOR THE INFO ON JRH AND THE 327 CONVERSIONS, AM SENDING YOU A PM.
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Post by bushog on Aug 7, 2018 8:41:31 GMT -5
BEAUTIFUL GUN!!!! What S&W should have made.... That is interesting that they used Model 18 cylinders... Bowen must have faced off the barrel to get it in deep enough to match the shorter cylinders... The Model 53 rimfire cylinder is the same length as a Model 19 Magnum cylinder and 17s and 18s are shorter .38 Special length... I had a 53 converted to .327 by Jack Huntington two years ago. The original barrel had been replaced because it was burned out and I had the rimfire cylinder. Jack rebored the original barrel and rechambered the rimfire cylinder so at some time in the fuuture it can be put back to original minus the .22 Long Rifle capability. I'm only running 85-100 grain bullets because the front sight isn't tall enough for anything heavier.... Since I also have a 6.5" FA 97 that runs nothing but 120-140s it isn't a big deal... And as was said, to switch cylinders, remove the front sideplate screw above the trigger, open the cylinder and withdraw the whole assembly out the front of the frame. Then pull the the cylinder off the crane and replace with the other cylinder. Slide the assembly back onto the frame, close the cylinder and replace the screw... Get a properly fitting screwdriver for the screw or one can bugger up things real quick... Also while you have the cylinder removed from the crane, clean everything real well and add just a drop of oil to all the bearing surfaces, the tip of the ejector rod, star and where the ejector rod goes into the crane. I've seen lots of Smiths that will barely turn because nobody takes the cylinder out and properly cleans it... Bob Apparently the reason to use the 18 cylinders was primarily due to the fact that the thickness of the ejector star was thick enough to do recessed case heads. That's the reason for the older model 19 for the base gun...the recessed case heads. Was Jack able to do the recessed case heads on yours or was there even interest?
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Post by Frank V on Aug 7, 2018 10:07:53 GMT -5
Wow simply wow. Congratulations that's a beauty.
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Post by Encore64 on Aug 7, 2018 13:53:26 GMT -5
So nice to see I'm not the only one into high grade small bores.
Have plenty of big bores too. My passion for 30+ years. But, really into small bores these days. Have a few surprises coming from a few of the custom builders.
Definitely going to send Greg a care package of my favorite 32 bullets.
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Post by rjm52 on Aug 8, 2018 5:10:24 GMT -5
"Apparently the reason to use the 18 cylinders was primarily due to the fact that the thickness of the ejector star was thick enough to do recessed case heads. That's the reason for the older model 19 for the base gun...the recessed case heads.
Was Jack able to do the recessed case heads on yours or was there even interest?"
Have to disagree...since the only cylinder that can be rechambered to .32 is a .22 and all .22 cylinder chambers are of the recessed rim type it is the only one that can be used. Not sure but I believe one could have also used a Model 14 or 15 as a base gun...
S&W based the original Model 53 Jet on the Model 19 and as such used the longer cylinder as the basis of the gun. The case heads were recessed in the 19 as it was a .357 Magnum but not in the 14, 15 and 16. That and the Jet round is longer than the .38 Special and .32.
I think that Bowen used the Model 17/18 cylinder simply because it was easier to face off the back to the barrel to be able to screw the barrel in a couple more turns to get the correct flashgap than finding two original, longer Model 53 rimfire cylinders. Jack had to do the same to my gun because the original barrel that he rebored to .32 had been so crystallized/hardened by the over 1000 rounds of Jet ammo through it when he tried to cut the forcing cone he ran into problems.
And yes, my cylinder has recessed chambers.
If one has a Model 14 or 15 and can find a Model 17 or 18 barrel and cylinder this would be a very easy conversion to a 4 or 6" .327...it would look just like a 16.
Bob
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Post by 2 Dogs on Aug 10, 2018 21:34:09 GMT -5
So nice to see I'm not the only one into high grade small bores. Have plenty of big bores too. My passion for 30+ years. But, really into small bores these days. Have a few surprises coming from a few of the custom builders. Definitely going to send Greg a care package of my favorite 32 bullets. The real secret to mastering a big bore is running a small bore at least as much. The small bore keeps you grounded in the fundamentals. Once you find a really good load there just isn't an excuse to miss. It makes you really pay attention to each and every shot. Thus with the big bore, you find yourself really bearing down on what you are doing.
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Post by mike454 on Aug 11, 2018 23:13:56 GMT -5
Nice find! very cool gun
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awp101
.401 Bobcat
TANSTAAFL
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Post by awp101 on Aug 12, 2018 8:31:04 GMT -5
Nice guns seem to be getting easier and easier to find.
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Post by bushog on Aug 12, 2018 8:48:32 GMT -5
Be nice to strangers....
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Post by bushog on May 17, 2023 20:19:10 GMT -5
This was the 3rd .32 that went to the range today
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