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Post by rangersedge on May 13, 2018 20:23:52 GMT -5
Not sure how they caught guy I knew of. They had been finding headless deer corpses. Suspect he bragged or showed them off to someone. It was widely rumored for sometime that he was doing spotlighting of the raccoons.
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Post by sixshot on May 13, 2018 22:48:32 GMT -5
This guy only has one close neighbor & he's the one that went to prison for big game violations. There is one other cabin in between them but it's seldom used except for an occasional weekend or during archery season. Pretty remote area so he probably got away with quite a few things. I hunt ground squirrels & badgers up that way a lot but rarely ever see the guy.
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Post by jfs on May 14, 2018 11:31:57 GMT -5
Northern Utah.... late `90s elk hunt....top a ridge and in valley a herd of elk.. an instant later rifle fire breaks out.....guide and I drop to the ground... poachers were shooting the elk.... guide ran around the hill top till he made out plate number on truck.... We met later with Fish & game and told our stories and they knew of the truck owners past.... Anywhere and anything the poached game comes in contact was confiscated....have to add that the game warden was a pretty American Indian female who also confiscated my heart.....
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Post by foxtrapper on May 14, 2018 16:00:51 GMT -5
Northern Utah.... late `90s elk hunt....top a ridge and in valley a herd of elk.. an instant later rifle fire breaks out.....guide and I drop to the ground... poachers were shooting the elk.... guide ran around the hill top till he made out plate number on truck.... We met later with Fish & game and told our stories and they knew of the truck owners past.... Anywhere and anything the poached game comes in contact was confiscated....have to add that the game warden was a pretty American Indian female who also confiscated my heart..... And now the rest of the story.....
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Post by rangersedge on May 14, 2018 20:22:12 GMT -5
I think we're all now waiting for the rest of the story. Total thread hijack! :-)
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Post by sixshot on May 15, 2018 0:47:20 GMT -5
James, you sure that wasn't in Alpine, Wyoming........
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Post by dougader on May 15, 2018 1:16:58 GMT -5
James, you sure that wasn't in Alpine, Wyoming........ Dick It certainly wasn't Alpine, Utah... that was Karen, she was a realtor and there were no elk involved, hehehe....
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Post by lscg on May 15, 2018 3:25:19 GMT -5
I know the State of Texas (and probably all the other states) likes to think it owns all the game animals but it doesn't, God does. and He gave them to us. so if a feller and his family are down on their luck and need an extra deer to two to make it through a hard year then I see nothing wrong with that.
but if you're poaching for horn and just waste the meat then they ought to at the very least have their thumbs and trigger fingers lopped off.
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Post by kings6 on May 15, 2018 10:00:10 GMT -5
I understand the sentiment Zane but the tough part comes in when folks are down on their butt and not willing to work and take it as down on their luck and resort to poaching. I know some folks do have a hard time but I think back on the guy who had a sign out saying he was hunger so I went and bought him breakfast and took it to him. He looked at it, said what is this and tossed it aside saying what he really wanted was money. It can be a tough call defining justifiable circumstances in many cases. Just my thoughts.
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Post by lscg on May 16, 2018 16:12:20 GMT -5
I understand the sentiment Zane but the tough part comes in when folks are down on their butt and not willing to work and take it as down on their luck and resort to poaching. I know some folks do have a hard time but I think back on the guy who had a sign out saying he was hunger so I went and bought him breakfast and took it to him. He looked at it, said what is this and tossed it aside saying what he really wanted was money. It can be a tough call defining justifiable circumstances in many cases. Just my thoughts.
I believe we're thinking about two completely different types of people Robb. I've known plenty of hard working country folks who don't happen to make a lot of money in a year. for them an extra deer or two in the freezer is a mighty welcome thing.
and even poaching can be hard work. how many panhandling drug addicts out there are willing to do actual work for their supper?
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Post by f3 on May 16, 2018 20:57:52 GMT -5
I would not condemn a man or think less of him of he poached animals to feed his family instead of getting food stamps or going to the local food bank. Before someone takes this wrong,I do not mean killing everthing he sees for shits and grins. If the man were to kill a doe a month to feed his family I would not chastise him. But shooting what is considered trophy animals and dumping the bodies is terrible. When I hunt the meat is the goal.
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Post by f3 on May 16, 2018 21:09:23 GMT -5
Most people live far under the poverty level. It was not that long ago when my wife was pregnant with our second child and the doctor told her she could no longer work because she had a placenta prevea(placenta tears because it is close to the cervical opening and causes crazy bleeding). This was 10 years ago and I was making $7.50 an hour. It is absolutely impossible to pay the bills on those kind of wages. Every payday was like an episode of Roseanne.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 7:10:30 GMT -5
Read the posted newspaper article. Its hard to understand what makes people like that tick, but then I've never been one to value trophy racks as a primary reason to take an animal. Killing a big game animal and leaving the meat to rot (in or out of legal season) is unconscionable. Bet this chump is wishing he'd been doing something else that day...
This poacher seemed motivated by trophy racks, but the root of this seems to be a general lack of respect for the animals God gave us. In the modern world even legit hunters seem to lack the respect of generations past. For instance, today we see animals like wild hogs demonized to the point where people hose them rapid fire from helicopters and such. I'm a far cry from a bleeding heart type, but any animal deserves a humane, quick kill. Even if it is deemed a pest.
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Post by sixshot on May 17, 2018 8:53:14 GMT -5
I don't live in Texas but the one winter we spent there after retirement I hunted hogs & saw the destruction they can do to a farmers field in just one night. It was almost beyond belief! Trust me, if it were your farm & your lively hood you would shoot them from a helicopter too. That doesn't even keep up with the population in most places. I talked with one big farmer east of San Antonio & he told me he had planted $100,000 worth of corn seed & while he was in the field planting the hogs would come out of the brush/timber & go right down the rows rooting up the seed. It's an all out war in Texas.
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