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Post by AxeHandle on Mar 4, 2018 7:05:04 GMT -5
Wandering through the used guns a couple of weeks ago. Spied a CMMG 556 AR. Heavy stainless plain muzzle 9 twist barrel. Looks like a 20 inch. Wears that hotdawg magpul PRS stock. Some kind of mid priced Bushnell scope. The black gun guys in the shop knew what the hand guard was. Gun way too heavy for the typical ninja AR shooter. Me? I don't even like black guns. Held off until yesterday when I noticed another rifle I'd been watching was gone. Looked at CMMG's web site. The most significant thing I see missing is the no accuracy guarentee like I see with companies like Rock River. We will see...
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CMMG AR
Mar 4, 2018 10:46:19 GMT -5
Post by eagle1899 on Mar 4, 2018 10:46:19 GMT -5
I would pass on a 9 twist every time.
7 or 8 twist both being my preference. They will shoot most all commercial ammo and nearly any hand load.
I prefer to assemble as opposed to buy. It is not any cheaper but you can get exactly what you want.
Accuracy guarantees are... like a good warranty... no saying it will shoot but they will take care of it if it does not.
AR's can be incredibly accurate and reliable. Think Barrel first... Then optics and mount ..... then trigger... everything else is what ever you like.
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Post by AxeHandle on Mar 4, 2018 10:54:55 GMT -5
Just a plinker here... I see 9 twist barrels in too many top drawer guns to turn down a deal on 9 twist barrel. I do understand where the 600-1000 yard F class shooters shooting big heavy bullets should see a real benefit in the 7 twist. Me? I'll take a 6.5 to shoot longer ranges...
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CMMG AR
Mar 4, 2018 11:39:32 GMT -5
Post by crazycarl on Mar 4, 2018 11:39:32 GMT -5
I don't generally hear good things about CMMG's stuff & they seem overpriced for what they are. I'm a fan of buying the complete upper set up the way I want, then building the lower myself. Generally less expensive & at least as accurate as any off the shelf AR.
That said, I'm not a fan of .22 caliber center fires (I'd make an exception for a nice bolt action in .22Hornet or K-Hornet, tho). It's either too much or too little for everything I hunt & in the off chance (God forbid) I had to defend myself against 2 legged varmints, I want to be packin' a lot more heat.
I'm not an especially big fan of ARs, but the 2 I have are are an 18" 6.8SPC & a 10" .300BLK SBR. The 6.8 is big medicine on whitetail deer & accurate (I've shot MOA at 300yds [furthest I've had an opportunity to shoot it] prone, shooting off a rolled up Army blanket), while the .300BLK is a dandy little HD & heavy brush deer gun.
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CMMG AR
Mar 4, 2018 14:31:03 GMT -5
Post by AxeHandle on Mar 4, 2018 14:31:03 GMT -5
When I looked at CMMG pricing I squinted pretty hard myself. Talked to some locals and got positive feedback. Bought a few uppers and built a few lowers myself. I liken an AR lower assembly to building with tinker toys but with a roll pin punch. The upper isn't overly complicated but the local monkey boys are just screwing stuff together and shooting. Most don't even know what a go no/go gauge set is...  |
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CMMG AR
Mar 4, 2018 14:36:39 GMT -5
Post by AxeHandle on Mar 4, 2018 14:36:39 GMT -5
FWIW I had absolutely nothing for, and had never owned or wanted to own, the 223/556 AR platform until I made the All Guard International Combat Team in '92. Run downs, starting at 500 yards, following a 2 mile run in BDUs and web gear carrying the little beast, made a believer out of me.
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CMMG AR
Mar 4, 2018 15:42:11 GMT -5
Post by crazycarl on Mar 4, 2018 15:42:11 GMT -5
I never really cared for the platform or the caliber the entire time I was in, including my stint on my infantry Battalion's small-bore rifle team. JMO, of course, but the .223 AR is an okay target rifle & those kinds of guns just don't interest me. In fact, I avoided them for a few years after I retired & discovered that I really don't like AKs & didn't have the $$$ to experiment with an unknown (to me) platform like the FAL or HK. A bud let me shoot his .223 AR at the range one day & I was surprised at how fun & familiar it was to shoot.
Maybe the Army took all the fun out of the AR for me, just like it did shooting in general, along with camping & hiking?
The sheer "Lego-ness" of the platform & ability to customize to taste were definite attractions & there's no denying 20 years' worth of familiarity & muscle memory. Still don't like the .223 much, but may end up with one for general purpose range blaster use & to take a carbine course or 2 without breaking the bank in ammo costs.
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