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Post by rjm52 on Dec 27, 2017 6:30:14 GMT -5
One of the posters over on the 24 Hour Campfire reported that Ruger has made a run of stainless .41 Magnum Blackhawks. In checking on GunBroker there are two standard models with a 6.5" and 4 5/8" barrels along with a 5.5" Bisley. All are on the standard size frame with the standard rear sight not the mid-frame Flat Top.
Nice to see that Ruger is keeping the .41 alive...
Bob
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Post by eskimo36 on Dec 27, 2017 6:38:41 GMT -5
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Dec 27, 2017 12:14:26 GMT -5
Yep... I have one and it is awesome! 😁
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Post by crazycarl on Dec 27, 2017 14:28:01 GMT -5
Crap! I didn't need to see this. I've got a 5.5" Bisley & a SBH BisHunter.
Definitely glad to see Ruger keepin' the .41 alive.
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Post by Stump Buster on Dec 29, 2017 13:51:28 GMT -5
I'm not complaining, this is a serious question that I'd like to know the answer to. Is there another reason aside from material cost saving as to why Ruger didn't go with frame filling cylinders on these? Aesthetically, I prefer frame filling cylinders, but if there's a practical/performance reason for the shorter cylinder/long forcing cone (reduced freebore distance from case mouth to FC maybe?), I'd like to know. I'm happy Ruger finally brought these to life, They have been a long time coming! I may have to get one just to give the Stainless SBH hammer I have sitting here a home. Factory release...  Photo-shopped long cylinder...  |
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Post by biglmbass on Dec 29, 2017 15:39:15 GMT -5
I'm not complaining, this is a serious question that I'd like to know the answer to. Is there another reason aside from material cost saving as to why Ruger didn't go with frame filling cylinders on these? Aesthetically, I prefer frame filling cylinders, but if there's a practical/performance reason for the shorter cylinder/long forcing cone (reduced freebore distance from case mouth to FC maybe?), I'd like to know. I'm happy Ruger finally brought these to life! Is this new one not made exactly like the blued .41 mag b'hawks, but for them being stainless? |
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Post by Stump Buster on Dec 29, 2017 19:43:48 GMT -5
I'm not complaining, this is a serious question that I'd like to know the answer to. Is there another reason aside from material cost saving as to why Ruger didn't go with frame filling cylinders on these? Aesthetically, I prefer frame filling cylinders, but if there's a practical/performance reason for the shorter cylinder/long forcing cone (reduced freebore distance from case mouth to FC maybe?), I'd like to know. I'm happy Ruger finally brought these to life! Is this new one not made exactly like the blued .41 mag b'hawks, but for them being stainless? Yes Sir, it's a new release that doesn't even show on the website, but there are a few available on GunBroker right now. I think the dimensions are the same as the blued ones. |
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Post by dhd on Dec 30, 2017 9:34:54 GMT -5
"Is there another reason aside from material cost saving as to why Ruger didn't go with frame filling cylinders on these? Aesthetically, I prefer frame filling cylinders, but if there's a practical/performance reason for the shorter cylinder/long forcing cone (reduced freebore distance from case mouth to FC maybe?), I'd like to know."
I think it's a very good question. Not being an expert at all, but can't see a reason other than interchangeable raw parts. In my mind, as long as the cylinder locks up lined up with the barrel and the throats/chambers are the same, the small addition in length would not hurt accuracy.
I too really really like a full cylinder window to include recessed case heads. I don't like it enough to send every revolver I have to one of the "Masters" to get them to fit a new one though. While each was there I know I'd have to add more features and they would all be a full build. Oh wait, I'm already starting to do this anyhow.
See, I ain't no expert, I jus pays da experts......
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Post by richp on Dec 30, 2017 9:46:00 GMT -5
I have one of each barrel length on order. Thanks to Ruger for doing them but more thanks to distributors such as Davidson,s and Lipsey,s or these would not be happening.
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Post by Lee Martin on Dec 30, 2017 10:07:31 GMT -5
The degree of frame fitting is a safety play. .357's have the longest gas rings, whereas .45 Colts have the shortest. Basically, the lower the caliber, the more barrel-to-frame protrusion. If they were all the same, someone could stick a .44 Mag cylinder behind a .357 barrel. I'm not sure if .30 Carbines are shorter than .357's. I'll have to measure mine, but they could be the exception to this rule. My 4-5/8" stainless .41 arrives early next week. Like many, I've long wanted a SS .41 Blackhawk. I have the 5.5" Bisley and planned on building a short barreled XR3-RED stainless .41. This release X'd another line from my project list. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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Post by JDG on Dec 30, 2017 22:25:08 GMT -5
The degree of frame fitting is a safety play. .357's have the longest gas rings, whereas .45 Colts have the shortest. Basically, the lower the caliber, the more barrel-to-frame protrusion. If they were all the same, someone could stick a .44 Mag cylinder behind a .357 barrel. I'm not sure if .30 Carbines are shorter than .357's. I'll have to measure mine, but they could be the exception to this rule. My 4-5/8" stainless .41 arrives early next week. Like many, I've long wanted a SS .41 Blackhawk. I have the 5.5" Bisley and planned on building a short barreled XR3-RED stainless .41. This release X'd another line from my project list. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" How was your 5.5 Bisley .41? any problems? undersized throats? |
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Post by crazycarl on Feb 11, 2018 13:11:19 GMT -5
My 5.5" Bisley .41 has been fine. I'm absolutely no kinda hotshot shooter, but can keep 2 cylinders of my hunting loads inside 6" at 25yds, offhand. No problems with leading or fliers.
ETA- talking to the seller now. Looks like a stainless 6.5"er will be joining my "collection" of s/s Ruger .41s soon.
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Post by dhd on Feb 11, 2018 22:54:03 GMT -5
The degree of frame fitting is a safety play. .357's have the longest gas rings, whereas .45 Colts have the shortest. Basically, the lower the caliber, the more barrel-to-frame protrusion. If they were all the same, someone could stick a .44 Mag cylinder behind a .357 barrel. I'm not sure if .30 Carbines are shorter than .357's. I'll have to measure mine, but they could be the exception to this rule. My 4-5/8" stainless .41 arrives early next week. Like many, I've long wanted a SS .41 Blackhawk. I have the 5.5" Bisley and planned on building a short barreled XR3-RED stainless .41. This release X'd another line from my project list. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" I just noticed your reply to a question I had. I never considered the possibility about someone putting the wrong cylinder in a revolver. I suspect it has happened.... Similar issue with the Short Action Ultra Mags by Remington a few years back (also the Winchester WSM's) with the different caliber cases being different lengths. |
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Post by cmillard on Feb 13, 2018 8:41:09 GMT -5
My accusport had undersized throats and thread crush. Has since been ironed out and shoots nicely. Still thinking about putting on a pacnor 11" 1-14 twist for heavy bullets
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Post by crazycarl on Feb 13, 2018 21:35:41 GMT -5
My 6.5"er should be here by Thursday, with some nice Altamont slim panel grips a day or 2 later. Guess I need to clean off my bench & do a goodly run of ammo. Lookin' forward to tryin' some 2400 under the 240gr Keiths.
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