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Post by tinkerpearce on Sept 19, 2017 12:15:02 GMT -5
Most of the load data for this cartridge is for the modern version of this cartridge, which is essentially a slightly shortened .44 Special with a smaller-diameter rim. Load data for this is easy to find, but for the original it's tougher, so I thought I would share my results.
The original .44 Colt- using a heel-base .451 bullet- was loaded with 15gr. of FFFg Black Powder, giving a muzzle velocity of 650fps and 207 ft/lb of energy from a 7-1/2" barrel. Not exactly a powerhouse, but it would do. Using Trail Boss's recommended procedure for developing a load using a 200gr. heel-base bullet gives a maximum charge of 7.2gr and a minimum of 5gr. After some experimentation I settled on a load of 6.5gr of Trail Boss, which I think is a reasonable approximation of the original load.
This load penetrated 1" into free-standing kiln-dried Douglas Fir 2x6. Experience has taught me that this is the equivalent of penetrating two braced 1" pine boards. Hey, old-school round, old-school testing! This is a good target load and ought to be sufficient for small game. I suppose it would be adequate for self-defense, but surely we all have better options?
Anyway hopefully this will be helpful to any of you other weirdos like me with a fascination for cartridge conversions and other obsolete stuff.
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Post by taffin on Sept 19, 2017 17:38:31 GMT -5
Most of the load data for this cartridge is for the modern version of this cartridge, which is essentially a slightly shortened .44 Special with a smaller-diameter rim. Load data for this is easy to find, but for the original it's tougher, so I thought I would share my results. The original .44 Colt- using a heel-base .451 bullet- was loaded with 15gr. of FFFg Black Powder, ACCORDING TO "US CARTRIDGES AND THEIR HANDGUNS" BY SUYDAM IT WAS A 210 GR. BULLET OVER 28 GRAINS. USED IN 1871-72 OPENTOP AND 1875 REMINGTON.
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Post by tinkerpearce on Sept 19, 2017 18:08:21 GMT -5
Most of the load data for this cartridge is for the modern version of this cartridge, which is essentially a slightly shortened .44 Special with a smaller-diameter rim. Load data for this is easy to find, but for the original it's tougher, so I thought I would share my results. The original .44 Colt- using a heel-base .451 bullet- was loaded with 15gr. of FFFg Black Powder, ACCORDING TO "US CARTRIDGES AND THEIR HANDGUNS" BY SUYDAM IT WAS A 210 GR. BULLET OVER 28 GRAINS. USED IN 1871-72 OPENTOP AND 1875 REMINGTON. The data I quoted is from Barnes & Amber's 1972 ' Cartridges of the World.' 225 gr (15 g) (U.S. Army black powder load) 640 ft/s (200 m/s) 207 ft·lbf (281 J) 225 gr (15 g) 640 ft/s (200 m/s) 207 ft·lbf (281 J) 210 gr (14 g) (factory load) 660 ft/s (200 m/s) 206 ft·lbf (279 J) 210 gr (14 g) (original factory black powder load) 660 ft/s (200 m/s) 206 ft·lbf (279 J) 210 gr (14 g) (smokeless, Lyman #429185) 650 ft/s (200 m/s) 197 ft·lbf (267 J)
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Post by taffin on Sept 19, 2017 23:28:50 GMT -5
The data I quoted is from Barnes & Amber's 1972 ' Cartridges of the World.' 225 gr (15 g) (U.S. Army black powder load) 640 ft/s (200 m/s) 207 ft·lbf (281 J) 225 gr (15 g) 640 ft/s (200 m/s) 207 ft·lbf (281 J) 210 gr (14 g) (factory load) 660 ft/s (200 m/s) 206 ft·lbf (279 J) 210 gr (14 g) (original factory black powder load) 660 ft/s (200 m/s) 206 ft·lbf (279 J) 210 gr (14 g) (smokeless, Lyman #429185) 650 ft/s (200 m/s) 197 ft·lbf (267 J) LOOK AT THAT LAST LAOD 14GR SMOKELESS!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Shakey
.327 Meteor
Central Arkansas
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Post by Shakey on Sept 20, 2017 0:08:24 GMT -5
Do you think that it is only a coincidence that 210 grains is approximately 14 grams and 225 grains is approximately 15 grams?
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Post by tinkerpearce on Sept 20, 2017 8:57:30 GMT -5
So the mystery is solved- I'm a dufus and misread the chart. Thanks for catching that; it seems obvious in retrospect. But you know... dufus.
That being said the Trail Boss load I posted is good- mild recoiling and accurate.
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