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Post by todddoyka on Aug 16, 2017 13:31:41 GMT -5
my first rifle is a winchester(post '64) model 1894 in 30-30 win. we had some great times but i retired her for good (about 20+ years ago). i was moving (i forget where, it was 15-16 years ago) the m94 broke its front sight. then about 14 years ago, i noticed that surface rust was on the receiver. i tried everything and the kitchen sink but i couldn't get it off. i took it to a gunsmith who could reblue it and he said "don't waste your time, the receiver was made out of sintered metal casting." so i took it home and i forgot to buy a front sight. and there it sat, until.... i was going to buy a mauser 98 or a montana rifle in 257 bob. i figured out that it would cost me x amount of dollars. or i could spend that amout and i could get a,b and c finally done. since it will take a couple of months to do the m94, (a & b i'm doing), i want to rebore it to 35-30/30. ( i have 30-40 krag and 165gr ranch dog.) www.35caliber.com/since i've got into the cast boolits game, it seems like a great fit. the area that i hunt it will close range type of thing(deer/black bear), about 50 yards. but i will take it to 150 yards. i've been thinking that the 35-30/30 will need a "mans" boolit, 250 - 280gr fn gc, to do a "mans" game, deer/black bear. sorry, i'm laughing too hard!!! i believe it will go 1600-1800fps. i'll probably be using a peep sight, (its a top eject, 1973) and for the front sight it will plain small bead or a fire sight. i want to do the 35-30/30 and i probably will. but what other calibers(38-55/26"+ barrel is on my bucket list) should i use? |
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Post by woody on Aug 16, 2017 15:16:18 GMT -5
35/30-30 would be a good choice. I was going to have a gun rebored to the 35 30-30 since I wanted a 35 cal lever gun and figured it would be much easier for brass etc than a .35 Remington. I never followed through with it. I was going to send my gun to JES for reboring.
The 38-55 is also a good choice. You can use 30/30 brass but it will be a little short I believe. The .375 Winchester brass is thicker.
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Post by mart on Aug 16, 2017 15:35:42 GMT -5
Either the 35/30-30 or the 38-55 would be a great choice. You might even consider Jes's 405 JES wildcat. I had JES Reboring do a 375 Whelen for me from a 30-06 with a rough bore. He had it back to me in 10 days from my door back to my door. It shot great. I've always thought the 35/30-30 would be an awesome little wildcat. Should be a great cast bullet gun.
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Post by sixshot on Aug 16, 2017 22:04:22 GMT -5
If it were me I think I would do some kind of an improved case on the 30/30 & blow that shoulder forward to gain some case capacity & also blow some of the taper out of the case, just a thought. I like the idea of stepping up to the 35 caliber bullets with cast.
Dick
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Post by todddoyka on Aug 17, 2017 13:35:41 GMT -5
Either the 35/30-30 or the 38-55 would be a great choice. You might even consider Jes's 405 JES wildcat. I had JES Reboring do a 375 Whelen for me from a 30-06 with a rough bore. He had it back to me in 10 days from my door back to my door. It shot great. I've always thought the 35/30-30 would be an awesome little wildcat. Should be a great cast bullet gun. i was thinking about 405 JES, but i like the 35-30/30(or 35/30). i would do a 38-55 but i'd like it to a single shot rifle, either the tc encore or something like an hi wall or a sharps. |
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Post by 2sheriffs on Aug 18, 2017 13:26:41 GMT -5
Why not have it rebored to 35 caliber and chamber it for 356 Win. or rebore to 338 and chamber it for 338 Marlin.
You might have to load it down, but it would be a lot cheaper to buy dies for. If you go with the 30-30 cases, I would base it on a improved like the 30-30 AI that has the shoulder moved forward. Talk to Jesse at JES and ask what he would recommend and what he has chambering reamers for. 38-55 might be a good bet as cases are easy to come by. You could probably load it up some as pressures are held pretty low because of the old guns chambered for it.
Good luck on your project.
Ron
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Post by sashtr on Aug 18, 2017 19:25:14 GMT -5
I really like the 38-55 in my JES rebore top eject. I have a Williams receiver sight and a Lyman 17 on the front. I also have a 38-55 Hiwall so I don't have to choose.You won't be wrong whatever choice you make.
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Post by 2sheriffs on Aug 20, 2017 13:37:59 GMT -5
Gary Reeder has a 35 wildcat based on a improved 30-30 case. His website says that he has dies for it. Says it's more powerful that a 35 Remington. 38-55 necked down would probably work better than 30-30 cases, Or if you could find them 375 Win. cases if you wanted to load them hotter.
Ron
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Post by todddoyka on Aug 22, 2017 14:02:38 GMT -5
Gary Reeder has a 35 wildcat based on a improved 30-30 case. His website says that he has dies for it. Says it's more powerful that a 35 Remington. 38-55 necked down would probably work better than 30-30 cases, Or if you could find them 375 Win. cases if you wanted to load them hotter. Ron nah, i'm more into heavy cast boolits and it will be plodding along  . i've gotten over "how much velocity" and "you could if you'd have a lite weight boolit". i've done them days. now i'd want( and have) 500L in a 23" MGM barrel(tc encore) that goes around 1200-1300fps(460gr lfn gc), instead of a 500 alaskan that goes 1700-1800fps? (460gr lfn gc).  i'd figure that a 35/30 that has a 250- 280gr? fn gc and goes 1600-1800fps, then its look out deer/black bear, the 35/30 has come to town! hey, wait a minute!!! i plod and i'm overweight too!!! now if the cartridge was handi-capabled, it would be 3 for 3!!! |
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Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 22, 2017 15:13:46 GMT -5
I've never looked at the 35/30... I do have 14" 35 Remington Contender barrel, & a 35 Whelen in a Remington 700, & was thinking about a 38-55 for a Martini single shot, but decided to do a 356 Winchester build instead a search on Midway for 35/30 turns up a special order Redding die set for $200.00 & that's about it... 356 Winchester turns up a boat load of dies & brass etc. as does 38-55... I know you can't just jump up to the 45-70 case for the 356 Winchester... & I'm certainly not the guy that turns his back on something unique or obsolete... but the 38-55 has proper headstamped brass in stock, all the dies, even loaded ammo in stock... I would guess it would be much cheaper to set up in the 1st place , & the gun would have a higher value once the conversion was complete... that said... if the 35/30 is what you have your mind set on... I say go for it... why be "normal"  |
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Post by todddoyka on Aug 22, 2017 17:49:55 GMT -5
I've never looked at the 35/30... I do have 14" 35 Remington Contender barrel, & a 35 Whelen in a Remington 700, & was thinking about a 38-55 for a Martini single shot, but decided to do a 356 Winchester build instead a search on Midway for 35/30 turns up a special order Redding die set for $200.00 & that's about it... 356 Winchester turns up a boat load of dies & brass etc. as does 38-55... I know you can't just jump up to the 45-70 case for the 356 Winchester... & I'm certainly not the guy that turns his back on something unique or obsolete... but the 38-55 has proper headstamped brass in stock, all the dies, even loaded ammo in stock... I would guess it would be much cheaper to set up in the 1st place , & the gun would have a higher value once the conversion was complete... that said... if the 35/30 is what you have your mind set on... I say go for it... why be "normal" i noticed that ch-4d has the 35-30/30(35/30) dies for sale. they $87 + sh. i've bought my 500L dies for $85 or so. i know that buying dies is a one time deal, or as i say, ehhh. i don't plan on selling the m94, i'll keep it till i'm dead then one of my sons can/cannot have it. a 38-55 single shot takes some doing, but i want that too. probably a sharps or high wall.  |
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. i've gotten over "how much velocity" and "you could if you'd have a lite weight boolit". i've done them days. 
