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Post by magnumwheelman on Jul 18, 2017 19:46:07 GMT -5
As some of you may know... I've been stocking up on factory ammo, stored under my designated amount of handload cases, in my ammo storage area... just in case I should die... so that is a sellable asset, rather than having 1000's of rounds of handloads in each caliber... I'm trying to buy decent hunting rounds in good reloadable cases... some of the bullets ( for example these 30-06 Remington 180 grain core locked pointed soft points I was just boxing up in my 50 round plastic boxes ) ( and I've noticed this on several other soft points )... that the tips are very inconsistent, partially mushroomed and look like they would suffer in groups at longer distances... I'm wondering if a deburring tool or similar might clean up the deformed lead tip enough to tighten up the potential groups... anyone ever experiment with trying to "fix" factory bullet tips... and did it make any difference???
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Post by bigbrowndog on Jul 18, 2017 20:52:04 GMT -5
The base is what drives the bullet, base and shank. The tip is really unimportant or of minuscule importance except for extreme range, as in beyond 500yds. So as far as hunting goes they really aren't a major concern.
Years ago someone did an article on the importance or inconsequential importance of bullet tips and accuracy at hunting ranges, I believe 300yds. Was the chosen distance.
They mashed them, bent them, removed them and basically the affect on accuracy was,..........inconsequential.
Hornady pretty much showed that even the plastic tip on normal non-ELD bullets melted as it flew thru the air towards the target, and yet the AMAX, NBT, SMK tipped, all provide completely acceptable accuracy despite having tips melt off during flight.
Trapr
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Post by sixshot on Jul 18, 2017 20:55:17 GMT -5
I believe that write up was by Rick Jamison.
Dick
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Post by magnumwheelman on Jul 19, 2017 5:58:25 GMT -5
My rifle range is 300 yards, so that is about my practiced hunting range, of course depending on game, cartridge, & firearm... so we're thinking I won't see much if any difference at 300 yards???
I would assume lower power cartridges would or might be more susceptible to variation than higher power cartridges as their effective ranges would be shorter... for example those same pointed soft points in the 22 Hornet would make more difference at 300 yards than those previously listed 30-06's
thinking a loaded round might be relatively easy to clean up the deformed lead with a hand deburring tool or similar, with a couple twists... not talking about doing anything to the copper jacket, only trying to clean up the deformed exposed lead tip???
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Post by bigbrowndog on Jul 19, 2017 13:21:51 GMT -5
I've taken loaded rounds and simply roll the tip at an angle up against a smooth steel surface like a steel target plate and with pressure returned the basic shape to mashed tips.
But I normally don't worry about them anymore.......
Trapr
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Post by contender on Jul 20, 2017 9:08:44 GMT -5
"As some of you may know... I've been stocking up on factory ammo, stored under my designated amount of handload cases, in my ammo storage area... just in case I should die... so that is a sellable asset, rather than having 1000's of rounds of handloads in each caliber... I'm trying to buy decent hunting rounds in good reloadable cases... some of the bullets ( for example these 30-06 Remington 180 grain core locked pointed soft points I was just boxing up in my 50 round plastic boxes"
If I read this right,,, your desires for the factory stuff is to allow for the sale of this ammo,,, IF NECESSARY,,, after you pass. Seeing the comment about storing it in 50 round plastic ammo cases,,, made me pause. If you are removing the ammo from it's factory boxes,,, selling it "after you pass," will be harder,, as it needs to stay in it's original boxes.
As for the tips,,, I'd store the ammo with the tips up, and in a manner to where they can't get deformed any more than they already are.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Jul 20, 2017 9:31:52 GMT -5
I cut off the end of the box, with the cartridge info, also include any lot number info, & any ballistics if printed on the box... in most cases, I'm taking 20 round paper boxes & filling 50 round hinge top boxes... I'm sure there is advantage to keeping them in the factory boxes... but since I'm not "planning" on going anywhere soon, I'm likely to need some of them for reloading  & I'm a little OCD / quirky like that  & I do buy plastic boxes that allow storage of the cartridges in butt 1st & tips up... |
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Post by dmize on Jul 21, 2017 8:22:05 GMT -5
I believe that write up was by Rick Jamison. Dick It was either him or Dave Scoville. |
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& I'm a little OCD / quirky like that 
