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Post by magnumwheelman on Jun 27, 2017 11:11:35 GMT -5
So... I seemed to notice this a couple years ago... ( I sell brass at one local gun show each year ) I had a buddy that traded off his 7 mm Rem Mag rifle & he had a bunch of brass, it took me 2 years to get it sold... I was just thinking... well we're not in the mountains & it just must not be popular around here... but I have noticed the last couple years, watching gun prices on Gun Broker, that the 7 mm Remington Magnum chambered guns, seem to be selling for a couple $100 less than comparable calibers...
is it really falling from grace, or is there something newer that is biting into it's territory... or something wrong with it I haven't picked up on yet??? ( I have one, but rarely shoot it... not because of anything wrong, that I can remember, but because it has much competition for my shooting time )
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Post by f3 on Jun 27, 2017 12:47:22 GMT -5
It's still one of the more popular chamberings here where I live in Montana. Most people use a 270 0r 30-06 though. Most people can't afford the latest and greatest here making $8.15 hr. If I remember correctly 25% of the people in the town I live in are well below the poverty level.
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Post by todddoyka on Jun 27, 2017 15:09:49 GMT -5
i can only think of one 7mm mag. in my area(swPA) it would be the '06 or the 270 with the 7mm-08 coming on strong.
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Post by sixshot on Jun 27, 2017 16:35:01 GMT -5
In the western states where you have elk the 7 mag has always been popular but there are a lot of new comers on the block that take a slice of the pie. A 30/06 or 270 is great elk medicine, the 7 mag buys you another 75-100 yds with good bullets & added recoil. Some guys go with the Ultra mags or whatever is the latest & greatest, I used them all back when I used rifles, good bullets in the right place always seemed to work. For many guys a 7 mag caused flinches that weren't there with a standard caliber, accuracy trumps horsepower. Worked with a guy that bought a 30/378 for elk, ammo was about $75 a box & he was scared to death of it, had me sight it in & he couldn't have hit an elk if it was standing over him, said it would reach across canyons! Really sad!
Dick
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Post by fanofthefortyone on Jun 27, 2017 17:41:49 GMT -5
I doubt the 7mm Magnum is "going away", it's all these new rounds that have been introduced. Every one is always looking for the next "best thing". I'm rather boring as I still like the 25-06 and 257 Roberts, if I need a big gun I have a 257 Weatheby.
Ronnie
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Post by kings6 on Jun 27, 2017 18:31:42 GMT -5
One of the first model 700 in 7 mag still lives here with a low 4 digit serial number. Dad got it in 1962 I believe is what he said and the last elk it got used on died just as fast as the first elk it killed. Both my 7 mags have only used one load of 69 grains of H4831 and Nosler 150 grain partitions. I know, you will NOT find that in the current manuals but is in the manual that came out when the gun came out and both rifles shoot it well with no problems.
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Post by bradshaw on Jun 27, 2017 18:32:11 GMT -5
So... I seemed to notice this a couple years ago... ( I sell brass at one local gun show each year ) I had a buddy that traded off his 7 mm Rem Mag rifle & he had a bunch of brass, it took me 2 years to get it sold... I was just thinking... well we're not in the mountains & it just must not be popular around here... but I have noticed the last couple years, watching gun prices on Gun Broker, that the 7 mm Remington Magnum chambered guns, seem to be selling for a couple $100 less than comparable calibers... is it really falling from grace, or is there something newer that is biting into it's territory... or something wrong with it I haven't picked up on yet??? ( I have one, but rarely shoot it... not because of anything wrong, that I can remember, but because it has much competition for my shooting time ) ***** magnumwheelman..... your question is guaranteed to flare nostrils. According to reported ammunition and reloading die sales, the 7mm Remington Magnum is the most popular of all belted magnums. What the hell is the 7 Mag, anyway? Remington necked down the .338 Winchester Magnum to seat a .284 bullet and, Wha-la... 7mm Mag, If we select RECOIL as a qualifier for a belted rifle cartridge, it simplifies matters to draw the line at 30 CALIBER. From .30 north, velocity hikes recoil. as heavy bullets push faster. The shooter’s shoulder pays extra for the velocity boost available from a .30 cal 180 grain bullet. Just as the .270 Winchester will never be the 7 Mag, the 7 Mag will never be a .300 Mag. Let alone a .338 Mag. The 7mm Rem Mag traces reasonably flat trajectory with a hell of a lot more clout than the .270. But a 7 Mag does not equal a Big Thirty. Various authorities even claim the 7 Mag is not an intrinsically accurate cartridge. Reckon none of these critics will find their name engraved on the Wimbledon Cup. A hunter could successfully bypass the 7mm----and, for that matter, the .30 along with it----jumping from a 6mm or 6.5mm straight to a hot 8mm, or wonderful .338, and not go hungry for doing so. Yet, for the majority of Americans reaching for a magnum, the round in the chamber is a 7mm Remington Magnum. David Bradshaw |
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Post by bushog on Jun 27, 2017 19:17:29 GMT -5
Oh Hell!
Here we go on this one.......
I know lots of folks that shoot 7mms but for a big bull elk here in NM NO WAY in Hades I'll use one.
An elk can run way too far in 30 seconds or a minute (always downhill from the truck) not to lay them down if you can. Right in the shoulder.....
I shoot a .300 Win mostly with a 200gn pill. I've got a .300RUM that I've killed elk, caribou, oryx and moose with but I really like my single shot .300 win in my Blaser K95.
Lots of folks say the 7mm has less recoil and is more manageable.
I'm a big boy and shoot my rifles A LOT off a bench. Guess it's gotten me used to not flinching.
9.3x64 or X62 or X74R or a .338 next in line.....
JMO
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Post by kings6 on Jun 27, 2017 19:31:17 GMT -5
Guess I have just shot lazy elk. Never had one go anywhere beyond his or her shadow when I hit them, someone forgot to tell them to "Run Forrest, Run"  |
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Post by bushog on Jun 27, 2017 19:43:01 GMT -5
C'mon now....I wasn't bashing Oregon elk....
Not to cause trouble here but wondering how far those elk were from you?
I've gotten the impression things are often tighter in the Oregon forests...
AND...I've never had one run either but I've wandered around looking for the other guy's elk...or oryx....
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Post by kings6 on Jun 27, 2017 20:00:39 GMT -5
I know you weren't Greg. And you make a valid point, the furthest I have shot an elk was about 150 yards! I much prefer heading for the deepest holes and sneak and peek hunting for elk while the other guys are banging away across the canyons. Most of my elk have been shot at 50 yards or less so there is not much problem with bullet placement.
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Post by bushog on Jun 27, 2017 20:19:07 GMT -5
Well, and honestly, the last bull I shot I couldn't even use my scope on 2.5x ....all I could see was brown...I looked over the scope and pointed the gun at him...BOOM!
Or, I've shot a couple at 300 yards +/-
I like my 9.3s in the tight stuff and that is what I use there.
Just been tooo many times when I wished I had the .300.....
Deb is going to shoot a .30-06 with a 168gn TTSX this Fall on her bull hunt. 'bout the same as a 7mm mag and it will do the deed. Bullet choice is crucial
The hunting is the fun part...after that it ends....
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Post by kings6 on Jun 27, 2017 21:34:06 GMT -5
Yes sir it is all fun and games until the brown is down!
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Post by sixshot on Jun 27, 2017 21:54:27 GMT -5
I've taken elk with a 6mm, 257 Ackley, 308, 270 (6) 30/06, & 7 mag in rifles, if I were to go back I'd have my son build me a 338/06 & be very happy.
Dick
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Post by bushog on Jun 27, 2017 22:22:54 GMT -5
Yes sir it is all fun and games until the brown is down! That sounds dirty....... Hey Dick, that 338-06 is about the same as the 9.3x62...big medicine.... |
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