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Post by bulasteve on Apr 26, 2017 8:07:51 GMT -5
Was reading the posts to Lee Jurras's passing and got to thinking I had a box of his ammo in the basement. Was mistaken. What I have is a box of Triton Quik-Shox 44Spec w/165gr HP of their design I suppose. If memory functioning this early am recalling a Corbon 165gr HP too. Seems I had some of those too and years back did some research and was told Sierra made the bullets but not available retail then. Sooo..what I'm now asking is what do you know of or recall about the Tritons ? Am no longer interested in bullets this light anymore and would just go buy readily available 180gr XTP's if I thought this niche needed filling. But still curious.
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Post by f3 on Apr 26, 2017 10:25:40 GMT -5
I think the Triton Quik shock were a segmenting hollowpoint. CCI used to use that name on their segmenting rimfire ammo. But have since just started calling them segmented hp.
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Post by bulasteve on Apr 27, 2017 7:22:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply. That much is pretty much all I know too. Was wondering who's baby it was. Other light or lighter bullets tried in 44spec.. Results, etc..
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Post by bulasteve on Apr 27, 2017 10:46:22 GMT -5
Guess I might have better have said it as high velocity 44spec stuff. My idea of high performance 44spec stuff truly might be better put as a 260-280gr cast chugging along at 3 digits of velo..YMMV..
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Post by 2 Dogs on Apr 28, 2017 0:48:01 GMT -5
I'm pretty certain the really light for caliber 44 specials like that were primarily to keep Charters Bulldogs survivable.
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Post by rjm52 on Apr 28, 2017 6:36:18 GMT -5
There is a whole chapter on Quick-Shok in the Marshall and Sanow book STOPPING POWER.
The Quik-Shok was the fourth of five major bullet designs by Tom Burczynski (who also invented the Hydra-Shok line).
It was a segmented bullet and was made to break apart into three segments on impact.
The .44 Special had a listed velocity of 1100 fps...
Bob
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Post by bulasteve on Apr 28, 2017 7:47:51 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Yeah my short-lived interest back then was for my Bulldog. Wasn't too thrilled with the segmenting part though. With the .357 like weight bullets you can get similar velos, real world short barrel velos. Also we know thats with a bullet that starts out at .43". I've gotten some expansion in various mediums with the 180gr and 200gr XTP's that became available for decent prices. I'd be just as happy with a FWC nowadays, as I see the violent expanding options and especially the segmenting stuff primarily as a way to reduce the threat to non-targeted bipedal types. Stay safe.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Apr 28, 2017 8:51:09 GMT -5
I was working up some 180 JHP loads for my 97 FA 44 Special. I worked up to 1400 fps which delivered astounding accuracy. Bob Baker told me my load might be too much for the 97 so I reduced it some. With a .44 Spl Ruger with nice tight chambers 1400 fps with a 180 might be more appropriate. If you have a custom or one of the rare 7 1/2" factory Rugers 1400 fps might be a bit easier to reach. This might also cure the "too short" front sight issue.
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Post by ezekiel38 on Apr 28, 2017 9:55:56 GMT -5
I remember running that CorBon load over a chrono out of a 3" 696 Smith and the advertised velocity was 1150 and the load out of the Smith was 1163 avg. It was accurate, never shot anything with it. Have a Hornady 165 factory load now that I keep for anti personnel work and it does 1006fps out of a 4" 624.
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Post by bulasteve on Apr 28, 2017 10:06:52 GMT -5
Didn't know Hornady had a 165gr option in 44spec.. Huh !
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Post by ezekiel38 on Apr 28, 2017 10:08:52 GMT -5
I remember running that CorBon load over a chrono out of a 3" 696 Smith and the advertised velocity was 1150 and the load out of the Smith was 1163 avg. It was accurate, never shot anything with it. Have a Hornady 165 factory load now that I keep for anti personnel work and it does 1006fps out of a 4" 624.
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Post by ezekiel38 on Apr 28, 2017 10:20:10 GMT -5
The Hornady Critical Defense FTX 165 grain load in 44 Special is #90700 in their catalog. Advertised velocity is 950 fps. It's accurate and hopefully never have to find out how well it performs on living tissue.
Looks like it would be a great Charter, Rossi load. Would have been a stunner in my 396 Smith.
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