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Post by foxtrapper on Jan 15, 2017 12:41:20 GMT -5
Available over at powder valley
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lah
.30 Stingray
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Post by lah on Jan 16, 2017 9:43:28 GMT -5
Most know about Bullseye but if you haven't tried Green Dot its a good powder also.
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Post by azshaun on Jan 16, 2017 11:40:39 GMT -5
Paco Kelly endorsed the 'dots'. Especially, Blue and Green:
"THE FORGOTTEN POWDER IN HANDGUNS...
I have some fairly hard wadcutters at 147 grains in .358 caliber. I load them over 7 grains of Green Dot in
357 cases with standard WW primers, and get 1275 fps from my Colt 357 revolver with outstanding
accuracy...I use ApacheBlu lube and the fouling is non existent. I once put five rounds of 200 grain 41
magnum HPs over the screens at an average of 1355 fps loaded over 8.8 grains of Green Dot from a
short barreled Ruger SA. 11.8 grains under a 240 grain cast 44 mag bullet in 44 mag cases gives
1310fps from my short barreled Ruger SBH. 11 grains under a 260 grain cast .452 bullet loaded in a 45
colt case out of my Ruger 45 colt short barrel gives 1200+ fps....all with great accuracy.
Using standard WW primers...this powder burns clean, drops well from powder measures..and is very
consistent from lot to lot...and doesn’t have the shift in velocity from differing positions in the cartridge
case like other fast powders...it’s the one faster type powder I don’t bother with fillers...and as I’ve
shown above, it is great for short barreled handguns. So why is it so unknown outside of shotgunners?
Beats me...but I use it.
Improved Green Dot powder came out in 1971, to better the 1965 offering. Which makes the load data
given from 1970 and before suspect...since this improved Green Dot has a faster pressure curve. With
the old data I would cut the loads by two grains and work up. Green Dot is slower burning than Red Dot,
it has a 20% nitroglycerin content and is at almost the same burning rate as International Clays, and
close to IMR PB though PB is slower slightly. And Unique is even slower. It is also excellent for medium
loads from 800 fps thru 1000 fps without shift variations and clean burning...but yet it will allow
velocities with lighter bullets for the caliber to go into the 1300 fps range. And it works very well in light
loads for rifle cartridges, especially with cast bullets. Green Dot like all the Dots and Unique is somewhat
bulky, John Wooters once described it as "Fluffy". What ever, it bulks well in handgun cases. Like many
shotgun powders Green Dot can be bought in multi-pound containers saving a good deal of money. I still
can’t understand why it is not popular with more handgunners...especially those that shoot a good deal
of medium loads......"
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jan 16, 2017 11:49:26 GMT -5
700X fits in that category as well. I had a 8 pounder once. Lasted what seemed like forever in the 38 Special.
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lah
.30 Stingray
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Post by lah on Jan 16, 2017 14:16:28 GMT -5
I'm using Green Dot in my 30/30 Winchester with cast & love the stuff. I purchased it while searching for Unique or HP38 both of which were absent for some time around here.
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JSilva
.30 Stingray
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Post by JSilva on Jan 16, 2017 15:22:15 GMT -5
How large are the green dot flakes compared to bullseye and unique?
My favorite .45 acp powder is 800x but it sure is hell to meter out cornflake sized powder flakes in my Dillon with consistency.
Unique gives me similar fits too and with it's bulk nearly fills the case of 9mm to the brim.
I had to settle back to the bullseye line for the sake of consistent powder throw.
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lah
.30 Stingray
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Post by lah on Jan 23, 2017 22:17:09 GMT -5
I've never looked at them side by side but they seem about the same to me. I'm throwing the Green Dot in my RCBS Uniflow & it doesn't miss.
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paulg
.375 Atomic
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Post by paulg on Jan 23, 2017 23:09:17 GMT -5
The Dots (Green & Red). My favorite for fun .44 special and will be the juice for some 158gr. Wadcutters. Thanks to Mr. Lee.
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lah
.30 Stingray
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Post by lah on Jan 29, 2017 21:57:19 GMT -5
How large are the green dot flakes compared to bullseye and unique? My favorite .45 acp powder is 800x but it sure is hell to meter out cornflake sized powder flakes in my Dillon with consistency. Unique gives me similar fits too and with it's bulk nearly fills the case of 9mm to the brim. I had to settle back to the bullseye line for the sake of consistent powder throw. OK I took a look while loading some 38s. To my naked eye Green Dot, Promo, & Unique all appear the same. My Dillon has no problem with any of these.  |
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