ebg3
.30 Stingray
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Post by ebg3 on Dec 29, 2016 12:53:13 GMT -5
Specifically the 345 gr gc Keith style bullet from Montana Bullet works. Bought 100 to try and they look good. Bullet length is .826" and nose to crimp looks like .385". With some loose calculations, it seems like 24.6gr of H110 will just touch the bottom of the bullet in new Starline brass. Would that be considered a 100% load and a good starting point? Was thinking of trying 23 gr H110 to start. I loaded some 400 gr Lee powder coated bullets with 21 gr H110 and a cci mag primer. With my capacity calculations, 22.8 gr of H110 will just touch the base of the 400 gr bullet. I do not necessarily want to load a max charge of H110 with either bullet, I just want to know where 100% is. I'm curious to try some full loads before settling on a more pleasant load. I guess another question is will you get into trouble loading a 100% load with H110? Not compressed, just 100% full.
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Post by bushog on Dec 29, 2016 15:22:20 GMT -5
I don't know much but filling to case capacity sure as the world isn't how I decide on a load.....
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jdoc
.327 Meteor
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Post by jdoc on Dec 29, 2016 16:50:51 GMT -5
Lee Precision data listed on Load Data lists a 405 Grain lead bullet w/22.3 grains H110 yielding 1328 f/s and 45200 psi. Primer and case not listed.
Did not find any data for the 345 Montana bullet. Hodgdon did give a max load of 27 grains WW 296 or 27.0 grains H110 with 355 grain Beartooth LFN GC yielding 1464 f/s and 38400 psi. I did not verify these loads on their respective websites.
I do not load for the 480 so I have little to add.
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ebg3
.30 Stingray
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Post by ebg3 on Dec 30, 2016 6:15:42 GMT -5
I don't decide on loads by capacity either. I've always heard H110 needs to be 100% and most H110 max loads I've seen for various cartridges are greater than 100%/compressed. I think in the case of the 480, 100% density will be a little heavier than I want to enjoy. I shot 21 gr H110 with a mag primer and the Lee 400 gr pc bullet yesterday. Primers looked fine and extraction was easy. I'll be trying the 345 gr bullet and will start with 24 gr H110. The data on Hodgdons website seems a little high but they don't have the exact bullets I'm using and I know available case capacity will make a difference. This goes back to why I was figuring where 100% fill is with H110. Thanks.
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daveb
.30 Stingray
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Post by daveb on Jan 3, 2017 8:14:15 GMT -5
Load Data from Hodgdon shows a starting load of 26 grains of H110 and a maximum load of 27 grains of H110 with a 355gr Beartooth bullet. H110 does not respond well to reduced charges as I am sure you are well aware of. Look at the specs for the BT bullet and see if the amount of bullet in the case is similar. In any case, I feel that 23 grains would be too low, and could cause problems.
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daveb
.30 Stingray
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Post by daveb on Jan 3, 2017 8:15:01 GMT -5
.480 Ruger (Hodgdon Data) Warning! Notes: Case: Hornady; twist: 1:18"; primer: Winchester LP; barrel length: 7 1/2"; trim length: 1.275"; bullet diam.: .475" (except where otherwise specified in remarks). NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS) Favorite? 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon H-4227 24.0 1295 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 32,600 psi 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon H-4227 27.2 1477 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 45,600 psi 325 Hornady XTP Winchester W-296 25.0 1416 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 37,300 psi 325 Hornady XTP Winchester W-296 27.0 1518 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 44,900 psi 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon H-110 25.0 1416 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 37,300 psi 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon H-110 27.0 1518 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 44,900 psi 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Lil'Gun 22.5 1416 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 39,300 psi 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Lil'Gun 25.1 1525 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 45,200 psi 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Longshot 13.0 1217 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 38,800 psi 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Longshot 14.5 1330 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 47,000 psi 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Titegroup 9.0 1016 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 34,900 psi 325 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Titegroup 10.7 1158 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 46,200 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC IMR IMR-4227 25.0 1363 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 38,500 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC IMR IMR-4227 28.0 1485 Remarks: max load; compressed; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 46,500 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Winchester W-296 26.0 1415 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 34,700 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Winchester W-296 27.0 1464 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 38,400 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon H-110 26.0 1415 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 34,700 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon H-110 27.0 1464 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 38,400 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Lil'Gun 24.0 1395 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 34,400 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Lil'Gun 26.5 1531 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 44,300 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Longshot 13.0 1221 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 37,300 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Longshot 14.5 1313 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 45,400 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC IMR Trail Boss 5.0 621 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 16,700 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC IMR Trail Boss 6.5 740 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 22,700 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Titegroup 9.7 1101 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 37,100 psi 355 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Titegroup 10.8 1172 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.630"; 45,000 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon H-4227 22.5 1248 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.640"; 32,800 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon H-4227 26.0 1427 Remarks: max load; compressed; COL: 1.640"; 45,900 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Winchester W-296 24.0 1348 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.640"; 33,400 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Winchester W-296 26.0 1454 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.640"; 41,500 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon H-110 24.0 1348 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.640"; 33,400 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon H-110 26.0 1454 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.640"; 41,500 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon Lil'Gun 22.0 1354 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.640"; 34,300 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon Lil'Gun 26.0 1539 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.640"; 46,800 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon Longshot 12.0 1162 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.640"; 36,300 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon Longshot 13.8 1272 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.640"; 45,800 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP IMR Trail Boss 4.5 597 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.640"; 16,000 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP IMR Trail Boss 5.7 689 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.640"; 20,900 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon Titegroup 9.0 1047 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.640"; 36,300 psi 370 Cast Performance Bullets LFP Hodgdon Titegroup 10.3 1137 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.640"; 45,800 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon H-4227 18.0 1026 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 31,600 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon H-4227 21.0 1211 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 46,100 psi 400 Hornady XTP Winchester W-296 18.0 1115 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 34,400 psi 400 Hornady XTP Winchester W-296 20.5 1258 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 46,600 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon H-110 18.0 1115 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 34,400 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon H-110 20.5 1258 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 46,600 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Lil'Gun 15.0 1067 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 34,200 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Lil'Gun 18.0 1229 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 45,600 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Longshot 9.5 965 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 37,900 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Longshot 11.0 1082 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 46,900 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Titegroup 7.0 816 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 35,000 psi 400 Hornady XTP Hodgdon Titegroup 8.5 959 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 46,800 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon H-4227 19.0 1112 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 33,200 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon H-4227 21.7 1255 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 45,500 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Winchester W-296 20.0 1213 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 35,500 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Winchester W-296 22.3 1328 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 45,200 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon H-110 20.0 1213 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 35,500 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon H-110 22.3 1328 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 45,200 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon Lil'Gun 19.0 1219 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 34,400 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon Lil'Gun 21.0 1337 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 43,900 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon Longshot 10.0 1023 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 33,400 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon Longshot 11.8 1140 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 46,100 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) IMR Trail Boss 3.5 469 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 15,200 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) IMR Trail Boss 5.5 645 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 25,700 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon Titegroup 7.5 927 Remarks: start load; COL: 1.620"; 36,100 psi 405 Cast Performance Bullets (w/GCK) Hodgdon Titegroup 8.8 1019 Remarks: max load; COL: 1.620"; 46,500 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon H-4227 19.5 1125 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 39,100 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon H-4227 21.3 1214 Remarks: max load; compressed; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 46,400 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Winchester W-296 19.0 1145 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 34,200 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Winchester W-296 20.0 1203 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 38,700 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon H-110 19.0 1145 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 34,200 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon H-110 20.0 1203 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 38,700 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Lil'Gun 18.0 1157 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 37,000 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Lil'Gun 20.0 1267 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 46,000 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Longshot 9.8 994 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 37,500 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Longshot 11.0 1080 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 46,600 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC IMR Trail Boss 3.5 467 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 16,200 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC IMR Trail Boss 5.0 597 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 24,300 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Titegroup 7.0 862 Remarks: start load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 34,100 psi 420 Beartooth Bullets LFN GC Hodgdon Titegroup 8.3 962 Remarks: max load; bullet diam.: .476"; COL: 1.640"; 46,100 psi
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