rWt
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Post by rWt on Dec 14, 2016 7:53:27 GMT -5
I have read a number of comparison posts on other sites. I'm wondering how you all compare them.
Thanks.
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Post by contender on Dec 14, 2016 8:27:21 GMT -5
I have a pair of Security-Sixes & a single Model 19. Both are fine guns, but if I were to spend a lot of time with a lot of magnum loads,,,I'd defer to my Rugers. If you are trying to compare actions,,, realize they are designed different and as such, will feel different. But either one can be worked on to be very, very sweet.
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Post by needsmostuff on Dec 14, 2016 11:09:52 GMT -5
Comparisons are never that simple until YOU decide what the intended purpose is. Both are now discontinued so parts ,if needed could be a problem someday. 686 and Gp-100 are current and solve that issue. Maybe just my hang ups but my simplest division would be. If you want a solid .357 revolver to last a lifetime, shoot a lot , test heavy loads , carry in a holster in open elements in general be a great tool, the Ruger may be for you. If you don't mind paying a little more and want a iconic showpiece to shoot lightly save in a safe and probably never feel as comfortable banging around the 19 may be for you. Up side is when you go to sell it you will get a lot more for the 19
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Post by jfs on Dec 14, 2016 12:20:52 GMT -5
I still don`t know why I gave my Shiras moose guide a 4" Security Six as a gift because it shot 158gr CSWC bullets with the best of them.... A tough handgun....
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Post by oddshooter on Dec 14, 2016 17:22:21 GMT -5
I have many revolvers (68 years old shooting silhouette), but you have selected two of my favorite models. I have two security sixes ($350 and $400)and two S&W model 19s($300 and $600). I also have the 686($850) and the GP100($575).
Wow, this is a tough question. Both great companies and this is two of their best. One is every workingman's tool and the other defines gentleman's art.
I dearly love the Security Six (one in ss and one in blue) and the trigger is smooth. It shoots nice groups of a little over an inch at 25 yards off a rest. It feels great in my hand and is a tank. I have target grips in wood and they are both gorgeous and functional.
My model 19 has been in my favorite five every since I got it. The bluing is beautiful and the trigger is near a perfect 7 and 3. It shoots under an inch for group size. The balance and feel is sheer poetry to my hand. The K frame is the size that fits me. One of my model 19s has a scope and is my 357mag "Reference Revolver" because of its phenomenal accuracy. I get 1/2 inch and under regularly with my reloads. The scoped model 19 shoots out to 150 yards with accuracy and style.
My GP100 has polished pins, trigger, and hammer that sets it off like no others. It has custom wood grips that may be the prettiest I've seen. A really nice gun. The DA trigger has stages. I've never bonded with it. I would keep the Security Sixes instead. My model 686 PC has the best DA trigger I may have ever touched (7- and SA of 2+) and it is very accurate. Came with recoil eating factory rubber grips. The brushed steel look is tough, but does nothing for me. This is a great gun. I wouldn't pick it over the model 19s.
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Post by rWt on Dec 14, 2016 21:36:27 GMT -5
I gather that the Ruger is a tougher gun.
How tough is it to find parts for the Ruger Security Six? Other grips?
Are the iron sights better on one over the other? Can a good gunsmith get as smooth a trigger pull on the Ruger as he can on the S&W?
I'm thinking of the 4" models or does the 6" barreled versions balance better?
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Dec 15, 2016 7:03:10 GMT -5
It is easy to get a superb trigger on a Security Six. I've owned four and did the work myself. Selling those guns rank with the very worst of my life's decisions on guns. Balance is a personal matter. An enthusiast should learn to shoot both equally well. I prefer the sights on the Ruger, although the front sights on all mine were changed out to undercut patridges.
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Post by AxeHandle on Dec 15, 2016 7:22:49 GMT -5
Boxers and briefs... The K frame S&W was never meant to be a 357 just like the N frame was never intended to be a 44. Make your choice and pay your money.
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Post by ericp on Dec 15, 2016 7:36:07 GMT -5
I have both. The Ruger gets shot more at the range, especially with 357s. I CCW the 2.5" 19 as I can do better fast DA work with it than the Ruger for whatever reason. We just get along I guess. Either will be a great choice and as others have said, both can be slicked up.
Eric
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Post by ezekiel38 on Dec 15, 2016 10:43:00 GMT -5
The Smith gripframe fits my hand better so I stay with the Smith. I have a tendency to shoot the Smith better whether SS or GP due to the grip. It comes down to individual ergonomics needs for me as both are capable of outstanding accuracy. In all fairness to the Smith K 357s I've shot thousands of rounds of LSWCs at 11-1200fps through them and they have held up well. It was the superhot 125JHPs by Federal and Remington in the 1980s that wreaked havoc on the K frame magnums. As others have said, apples or oranges what's your choice.
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Post by rugerluvr on Dec 21, 2016 17:24:17 GMT -5
S&W 19 is a classic but Ruger Security Six has soul. Jus say'n
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Post by bradshaw on Dec 21, 2016 23:20:47 GMT -5
I have read a number of comparison posts on other sites. I'm wondering how you all compare them. Thanks. *** Of all the endless arguments----.44 vs .45, etc.----probably this one is the easiest to answer. Not that a simple answer stops the discussion. Without doubt, Bill Ruger’s entry into double actions was fueled by the success of Smith & Wesson, the overall history of durability & accuracy and, not the least, S&W shootability. Can you exceed S&W smoothness? Probably not. But, you can exceed the toughness of a Smith. Ruger had already exceeded durability of the Colt single action, now he must do the same against the S&W double action. The Security-Six came along at the right time, as thousands of Americans were into magnum handgunning. Durability of the Ruger Speed-Six and Security-Six forced Smith & Wesson to develop the L-frame. Don’t look to Ruger for proof; the L-frame is proof. When the menu calls for hammering magnums through a double action, bring a Ruger to dinner. Members of the forum throw ardent support behind S&W and Ruger DA .357s, a testament to both designs. Which gun to use? Let the ammunition decide. For .38 Special and mid-magnum, the M-19. For running magnums, the Security-Six. David Bradshaw
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Post by oddshooter on Dec 24, 2016 12:47:45 GMT -5
"Which gun to use? Let the ammunition decide. For .38 Special and mid-magnum, the M-19. For running magnums, the Security-Six." David Bradshaw
I want to change my post. What he said. /\
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Post by lah on Dec 24, 2016 21:46:47 GMT -5
I've shot both & own a 19. To me they are simply two different handguns. I do think the Security-Six is the best looking DA Ruger.
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Post by boxhead on Dec 26, 2016 19:59:17 GMT -5
I own both (the Smith a 4" 66) but will take my snubby SS every time. The thing is crazy accurate and with a bit of my tuning is easy to shoot very well.
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