f3
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Post by f3 on Oct 14, 2016 17:15:35 GMT -5
I was given an old partial box of somesort of cci or speer jacketed hollowpoints with a pentagonal hollowpoint cavity. When were they making these? They are in a yellow plastic box of 25 rounds.
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Post by bulasteve on Oct 19, 2016 7:57:37 GMT -5
I gotta admit, I don't recall those. I've some of the 3/4 jacketed HP's and solids, and the cardboard boxes and some of the first ammo bought for the 44SBH came in the yellow plastic, Lawman loads. I still have those boxes and the brass.
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Post by joej on Oct 19, 2016 8:19:55 GMT -5
They might be what was called the "flying ashtray". If so, they will weigh in at 200 grains. I think they 1st came out in the 70's and are no longer manufactured - the 185/200/230 grain Bonded Gold Dots replaced them.
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Post by dougader on Oct 19, 2016 18:57:22 GMT -5
Are you talking about loaded ammo or bullets? I don't recall Speer making penta-type hollowpoints. I have some of the 45 caliber Speer "flying ashtray" bullets; just loaded some up with blue dot not too long ago. These are round, deep cavity hollowpoints, not penta. They have been discontinued, but I ordered about 500 of them in the late 80's - early 90's and haven't loaded them all up yet.
Maybe they are handloads or another brand of bullet someone just dumped into a Speer yellow box. Maybe these are just way before I started reloading in about 1985-86...
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Post by bulasteve on Oct 20, 2016 8:13:00 GMT -5
Yup, curious now !
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Post by frankenfab on Oct 20, 2016 10:41:48 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, the Gold Dot HP's have a dished hollow point that looks like an inlay, if you will. The cavity is a solid dish, but there are alternating sections of lead and copper.
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Post by frankenfab on Oct 20, 2016 10:45:41 GMT -5
If you google speer gold dot and go to images, there are actually a buch of different designs. This is the one I was thinking of: goo.gl/images/S8g8jl |
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Post by woody on Oct 20, 2016 17:23:44 GMT -5
The CCI Stinger .22 LR originally had a penta style HP. I don't know if any other bullets were made that way. They were made that way a little before my time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 19:58:44 GMT -5
I vaguely remember a penta point Speer existing ages ago. I live in Hornady country (Nebraska), and anything by Speer is really rare around here.
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Post by bulasteve on Oct 24, 2016 9:20:28 GMT -5
Details ! Caliber and weight ?
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 24, 2016 9:42:41 GMT -5
The jacket of Speer Gold Dot bullets is electroplated to a lead core. Speer/CCI embarked on the possess with TMJ (Total Metal Jacket) bullets. First generation bullets included ball and silhouette projectiles. Hollow points start as a TMJs which pass through a punch press. The punch deposits a dot of jacket material at the bottom of the cavity, hence, the name. As indicated, the hollow pound is round, not pentagonal.
David Bradshaw
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 18:58:43 GMT -5
The Speer penta style hollowpoint design has to be around 30 years old. It was used in the old style conventional "cup & core" type bullets with exposed lead noses, and I think they were only in revolver calibers.
Anybody got an older Speer Bullet Board?
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Post by hoover on Oct 24, 2016 19:02:42 GMT -5
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Post by ezekiel38 on Oct 29, 2016 12:30:55 GMT -5
The Penta points by Speer were short lived and I remember them being available just before they introduced the Gold Dots! Had some in 357>
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