cmh
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Post by cmh on Aug 31, 2016 13:26:56 GMT -5
Just curious if anyone here has put together a mid-frame flattop specifically for 45acp? Barrel choice? Am I correct that the top end loads are 23k safely? Thanks, Craig
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Post by Encore64 on Aug 31, 2016 13:37:43 GMT -5
I have a factory midframe Ruger with both cylinders. Ruger says 23,000 psi loads are fine.
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Post by jimtx on Aug 31, 2016 14:52:24 GMT -5
I love those new midframe 45colt/45acp conv. I wanted the 4 5/8" SS model on GB I just seeing the blued 5.5". Most of all my rugers are blued except one, wouldn't mind another SS and a polished ss vaquero to add.
These frames(not the grip frame) are so similar to OM BH xr-3's and I've run them pretty hot, but it's like anything I'm sure they would handle 23K psi plus just not a steady diet. But one would not buy one if that was their intention anyway IMO they would just get a typical LG frame 45colt/45acp or FA m83 to go real big and have at it. |
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Post by Alaskan454 on Aug 31, 2016 20:07:41 GMT -5
I had one of the 4 5/8 Flattop convertibles and shot mostly ACP through it. I only sold it because I also had a convertible New Vaquero and preferred the fixed sights. For what it's worth the New Vaquero and Flattop guns seem to be of higher quality than most Rugers I've had.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Aug 31, 2016 20:17:02 GMT -5
My Flattop 45 Colt/45ACP has a Bisley conversion, throat and trigger work and some other small mods that make it a dandy. My particular unit displays excellent tolerances and replaced my dual cylinder FA97 45. With ACP loads it is very pleasant to shoot. Gotta love it!!
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cmh
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Post by cmh on Sept 1, 2016 7:32:55 GMT -5
Thank you gentlemen. Craig
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edk
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Post by edk on Sept 1, 2016 16:52:01 GMT -5
These frames(not the grip frame) are so similar to OM BH xr-3's and I've run them pretty hot, but it's like anything I'm sure they would handle 23K psi plus just not a steady diet. But one would not buy one if that was their intention anyway IMO they would just get a typical LG frame 45colt/45acp or FA m83 to go real big and have at it. Tell that to the guys getting 5 shot Colts and 480s on these frames! |
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ryan
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Post by ryan on Sept 1, 2016 19:51:40 GMT -5
These frames(not the grip frame) are so similar to OM BH xr-3's and I've run them pretty hot, but it's like anything I'm sure they would handle 23K psi plus just not a steady diet. But one would not buy one if that was their intention anyway IMO they would just get a typical LG frame 45colt/45acp or FA m83 to go real big and have at it. Tell that to the guys getting 5 shot Colts and 480s on these frames!
I have to admit, that's sound logic. But the oversize cylinder on the mid-frame guns sure makes them a lot of fun, and certainly more interesting to me. My .480 is very pleasant to shoot with the loads I'm running and yet still very capable if I care to push it. I can't comment on the 5 shot 45 Colt because mine isn't done yet! 
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Post by jimtx on Sept 1, 2016 23:05:54 GMT -5
Hey I don't care I know I'm not going to blow one up, just reiterating what Ruger and some articles have said answering the OP's question. But that's all SAAMI crap it takes a lot more that 30 or 40psi to blow a LG frame so knowing rugers that 23psi is lawyer talk in reality I'm sure it's closer to 45-50psi, 480 is not designed as a high pressure round, and 5 shot, 45 colt when done, the builder usually lets you know based on what they did how safe it is to run whatever psi they say not everyone with a 5 shot runs it to low end 454 pressures but definetly more than 30psi ruger only loads. That's a large gap 30psi-50psi. My guess would be 40 psi on the sm frame and 50-55 psi on the large frame. I talking a "steady diet" here as well not a couple hundred rounds here or there. A lot of guys tell you I shot "XXX load super hot loads in mine" But they never seem to say how many rounds they actually have fired. |
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Post by 38 WCF on Sept 2, 2016 14:53:59 GMT -5
Just curious if anyone here has put together a mid-frame flattop specifically for 45acp? Barrel choice? Am I correct that the top end loads are 23k safely? Thanks, Craig I had my Mid-Frame Flattop 45 acp cylinder converted to 460 Rowland. I do not shoot full bore Rowland loads in it but they are loaded hotter than standard 45 acp. Nice conversion in my opinion. I believe Clark Custom Guns did the work as I recall. |
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Post by bushog on Sept 3, 2016 8:21:55 GMT -5
I'm having a Vaquero in .45AR built.....
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nicholst55
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Post by nicholst55 on Sept 3, 2016 11:08:30 GMT -5
I just traded for a 5.5" stainless mid-frame .45 convertible yesterday. It needs to have both cylinders throated, and it has some transfer bar pinch that I need to correct. I think I'm going to buy the reamer and throat the cylinders myself. That way I'll be set if I run across another Ruger .45 with tight throats.
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Post by jimtx on Sept 3, 2016 14:49:19 GMT -5
I just traded for a 5.5" stainless mid-frame .45 convertible yesterday. It needs to have both cylinders throated, and it has some transfer bar pinch that I need to correct. I think I'm going to buy the reamer and throat the cylinders myself. That way I'll be set if I run across another Ruger .45 with tight throats. I own mansons & clymers for 45LC, 41mag, & 357mag. They work great!, I had a chance to buy 38-40 & 44mag ones with pilots cheap, now I need both & don't have them.  Their expensive $140-$150 ish, Brownells only has like 3 calibers, call Manson directly and get them from him or check Ebay & GB first a that's how I got 2 of mine with pilots cheap guy used em once and sold them. I think there is a different brand one on Ebay now looks like it's a non pilot 45 didn't specify if LC or acp. |
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veeman
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Post by veeman on Sept 4, 2016 10:27:59 GMT -5
I have one with the 5 1/2 barrel, have only shot the 45 Special in mine. Had to have the cylinder reamed, way undersized. Shoots great!
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Their expensive $140-$150 ish, Brownells only has like 3 calibers, call Manson directly and get them from him or check Ebay & GB first a that's how I got 2 of mine with pilots cheap guy used em once and sold them. I think there is a different brand one on Ebay now looks like it's a non pilot 45 didn't specify if LC or acp.