Snyd
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Post by Snyd on Sept 1, 2016 12:14:15 GMT -5
Perry, Are you going to use your .500L on your moose hunt or your .45C?? Bob Great thread by the way!! 500L As you know, it's opening day here in the Interior! Sunny, 40 degrees in downtown Fairbanks this morning. Supposed to be a little cooler next week. Maybe a little rain. I think I'll head out Monday unless it's like a monsoon.
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Post by brobertson on Sept 1, 2016 12:34:41 GMT -5
Hope you have great weather for it!! Nothing like fall season in the interior!! I am looking forward to getting back up there next year!!
Your 500L will be perfect on a moose!!
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Post by seak89 on Sept 1, 2016 12:48:57 GMT -5
You will do great Perry,just pretend you are shooting rocks
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Post by sixshot on Sept 1, 2016 13:35:14 GMT -5
That inverted "T" target is excellent, sure helps my old eyes, even the left one. If you have some place to put one get one of Bill Fowler's steel targets & stands, they are great & he makes them in different sizes, you can move them to any distance & of course they are made of hard steel. We use mine all the time, just set it up & then when you want to move just move your chair & foot stool back if using the reclining position. Speaking of moose, my buddy Brent, retired Dentist, took a very nice bull moose from the same water hole where me & Callshot got his bull using my Harton custom 480 & a 370 gr. cast slug, one shot. This was about 4 years after Callshot got his bull. I've wrote the story up before. It was also Brent's first ever handgun kill. A very nice Shiras moose, Brent was pretty calm, I did my little crazy dance, made 3 laps around the meadow, climbed a couple of pine trees & hollered & then I was ok. This was the 3rd moose on this waterhole. Dick
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Post by 2 Dogs on Sept 1, 2016 14:24:15 GMT -5
So once you've got your load(s) dialed in and know what the gun is capable of from the bench at various distances, what do you expect from yourself when shooting your Big Boomer standing off-hand? Let's define Big Boomer as Full House 454 and up. Cartridge/Load that makes you hang on to that sucker or else! At 25yds this seems to be my norm I seem to have settled into, sometimes a little tighter but usually there's that 1 that doubles the group size. 3 Different loads. 50-70 yds I'm ringing 12" steel closer to a 9" group At the end of the day it's "minute of moose"! Synd, what I do, is first establish a baseline. That is, I take a 22, 32, or 38 special or whatever that I already know I can shoot well to whatever distance. This baseline helps you control what you are doing with the monster boomer. So, lets say I shoot a 2" group with my smaller bore, then I should be able to shoot at least a 2" group with my big bore. Like you said above, it helps going in that you have already done any benchwork you need to prove the accuracy of your particular sixgun. If you cannot shoot a 2" group with your big bore, go back to your small bore immediately and recover your fundamentals of sight picture and trigger control. This will help you avoid developing a flinch. Let's say your chosen big bore is a 454 Casull. It helps a great deal to condition yourself to the recoil and blast by working up to the load you consider to be your maxium. So lets say, you can shoot 2" at 25 yards with your 454 Casull at 1300 fps but at 1500 fps your groups open up then you know you need to work with a bit lighter load until you can manage that load that is your maximum. I like to alternate from my big bore to my small bore just to keep my fundamentals secure. Shooting the big loads consistently well like some of the guys on here can do seemingly on demand is not something they were able to overnight. These guys are conditioned to the blast/recoil by constant practice and believe me when I tell you they earned these skills. Just another reason why the small bores are so very useful.
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callshot
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Post by callshot on Sept 1, 2016 16:25:48 GMT -5
Thanks Dick for telling the story of my hunting with buck fever. It was really fun when we scored. When you learn how to hold the big boomers and shoot them for some time it gets to be second nature if you can manage the excitement. I haven't shot mine for a while so I'm rusty at it. After a little more time for my wrists to heal up after some surgery I'll get back into shooting with or without a rest. Off hand is more fun for me.
Steve
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Snyd
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Post by Snyd on Sept 3, 2016 19:05:17 GMT -5
Did some more shooting yesterday. This is 53yds off hand. 12 " steel, 9" circle. Into the sun, standing off hand, first 2 were in the center, next 2 were out, not sure where the 5th one went. I seem to be consistent in that my for 2 or 3 shots are the most accurate. Which is good for hunting I suppose but bad for pretty groups! 455gr 1325fps
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joej
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Post by joej on Sept 3, 2016 19:36:46 GMT -5
53 yards off-hand with no support - that's not bad at all. Those 3 rounds that got away from ya is due to that front sight drifting a tad to the right. Just concentrate on equal sight spacing, squeeze and take the PAIN. When you see the blocked sight as the revolver starts to recoil you can call those "flyers".
At your age, it would help to squeeze a ball or a set of hand grips for maybe 4/5 minutes at a time, 6 or 8 times a day - every day. At my age, I just get closer.
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Post by Fowler on Sept 3, 2016 23:25:06 GMT -5
I remember Ross Seyfried said he learned to shoot the 475 Linebaugh a couple shots a day, he lived and worked on a cattle ranch and just carried the big boomer as his working gun, everytime he would go by his gong he would take a shot or two and go about his day. With the big thumpers you need to be able to hit with the first shot very well, after that it is far less important.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Sept 4, 2016 8:00:53 GMT -5
Those of us who know Lynn Thompson of Cold Steel as know he is a big bore recoil junkie. He practices his offhand on a 1" circle at 25 yards and expects to hit it.
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Post by gaguideman on Sept 4, 2016 9:27:17 GMT -5
These big boomers are a hoot to shoot for sure. I hope to use my 454 this year for hunting. Haven't got a chance yet.
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Post by paul105 on Sept 4, 2016 13:33:35 GMT -5
I shot this over a month or so. Every time I'd go to the range, I'd post this target at 50 yds and shoot the first shot of the day, one shot only, offhand with my 6" FA83 .475 Linebaugh (420gr WFNGC at a chroned 1,300 fps). This was quite some time ago and I was shooting the .475 a lot (close to 15,000 rnds of 370/400gr at 1,100 + fps over a 3 year time frame). Couldn't do it today. Here's another target (same gun/load) shot at 50 yds offhand during that same time frame: Best group with 4 1/4" FA97 .45 Colt using 315gr SWC at 1,100 fps offhand at 50 yards. Three five shot groups shot back to back to back with 4 1/4" FA97 and 315gr SWC. Both guns with FA fiber optic front sight and standard square notch rear. Was shooting both guns a lot during that time frame along with a S&W 329. Here's picture of the trio. Flatlander should recognize the FA97 in the picture -- got it from him and have shot 25,000 + rounds thru it -- one of my favorites that I've neglected for a while. Couldn't do it today for sure. Paul
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Post by 500fksjr on Sept 4, 2016 20:12:12 GMT -5
Have you thought about slowing that 455grn down to 1150/1200 fps and reduce the recoil abit???
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Post by bulasteve on Feb 28, 2017 10:47:16 GMT -5
The Six Inch challenge prompted me to come back to this thread. Too much good info to let it slide. I like Paul's idea of maintaining a first shot target. A great idea for the handgun hunters as this is truly THE ONE that matters. I've mentioned a small folding beach chair, am bringing this back to front burner status. Will see if wife can camo cloth over the bright colors and I can spray or tape camp the rest.
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nicholst55
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Post by nicholst55 on Mar 2, 2017 19:08:51 GMT -5
Has anyone tried a grip exerciser to help with handgun groups? Back in the olden days when I shot Bullseye, we always used a grip exerciser, and it seemed to help over a long course of fire. We always used a grip like a vise - squeeze until your fingertips turned white, then back off just a bit. Of course, recoil from an M1911 .45 ACP isn't anything like a big boomer revolver. Just curious.
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