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Post by Markbo on Dec 5, 2014 21:38:10 GMT -5
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Post by nolongcolt on Dec 5, 2014 21:50:48 GMT -5
I just read that too. As a user of many 700's over the years I can only say it never happened to me. And while anything is possible I am certain that 99.9 percent of guns going off unintended is user error. I mean for crying out loud. That incident in Montana where the mother shot her own son when a 700 "went off". How come she was pointing the rifle at her son?!?!? If people were doing their own due diligence in safe gun handling NO ONE would have been killed in any of the alleged incidents of trigger failure! Not saying it cant or didn't happen in a few rare cases, but I think its largely people upset at their own poor handling of deadly weapons, looking for somebody else to blame for their failures.
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Post by tek4260 on Dec 5, 2014 22:01:01 GMT -5
I'll keep my M700 just as it is with the "faulty trigger"
Wonder how many problems are caused by mouthbreathers with screwdrivers attempting to get a light trigger without replacing the springs with a smaller diameter wire(lighter) spring? Didn't take us long to figure out that Remington upped the weight of the springs, for drop test requirements I assume, and we had to respring them in order to get a good trigger. Otherwise, there was no preload and the sear wouldn't reliably reset once you got a lightweight trigger.
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Post by tek4260 on Dec 5, 2014 23:33:10 GMT -5
www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-Rem-700-40x-Reduced-Pull-Trigger-Replacement-Springs-Set-of-2-NEW-/111527273066?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f78b226aOf course it is cheaper just to buy the spring stock from Brownells and have enough to last for years of doing triggers at home.  Used to, you simply tightened the trigger engagement screw until the sear released, then backed it off a bit. This took out the creep. Then you loosened the trigger weight screw for a light trigger. When they made the trigger weight spring heavier, it was impossible to get a light trigger with any preload of the spring. Thus, when the trigger was "light", the spring wasn't compressed any and the sear engagement wasn't reliable. The lighter spring allows you to have a good trigger and with preload, it ensures that the sear engages fully every time.
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Post by DiamondD on Nov 27, 2016 11:59:49 GMT -5
I've never ran into this personally on a M700 and was a little leary of the claims myself. Until last month when it happened on my brothers .300 Win Mag. A rifle he has had for years and shot/hunted with trouble free the whole time. Him and my dad were getting geared up to head out, I believe it was opening morning, he ran the bolt to chamber a round, touched the safety and the rifle went off. I wasn't there but I will take their word for it.
Dean
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 27, 2016 12:55:21 GMT -5
Makes me remember a 22-250 700 Varmint I owned a couple of decades ago. Had a 2 oz Canjar trigger in it. 24X Leupold with an 1/8 minute dot. Gun shot well enough to shoot house flies on the target backer at 100 yards. Still remember the brother of a family friend roughly snatching and jerking the action open and closed until it fired on closing and proudly proclaiming it unsafe. I knew what the unsafe element was in that situation...
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Post by rangersedge on Nov 27, 2016 15:54:47 GMT -5
Many, many years ago, I was into predator calling and had the opportunity to purchase a rem 700 in .17 rem. Gun shop owner told me to take it out for a try. Bought some ammo and promptly shot some sub inch groups using a big round hay bale as a rest. Had a wonderful trigger. Bought the gun and then had it discharge on me about three different times as I was closing the bolt. Wasn't sure what happened first couple times (i.e. did I accidentally touch something?). Complaint ed, took it back, he called a few days later and suggested I try it again. Same great trigger. No more kabooms. Don't know what he did.
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Post by contender on Nov 27, 2016 19:08:03 GMT -5
I currently have a .222 cal BDL in a semi-bull bbl. It performed great on many trips for long range varmints. Then, one day, at my bench, from the bags, I closed the bolt & it went bang. I was not rough handling it or anything. I've cleaned it, inspected it, & all, & didn't find a reason. It hasn't done it again,,, but it has made me wary. I bought a Timney trigger,, but haven't installed it yet.
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Post by bigmuddy on Nov 27, 2016 21:00:55 GMT -5
My 30-06 that I've had for 35 years fired when I flipped the safety off. I thought I must've been at fault until it did it again the same day. Took it to a Remington authorized gunsmith and it was fixed. I was still pretty nervous about it until several range outings. Now I use it with confidence. (although not often as I hunt with handguns)
Mine had never had any trigger work done. It just fired when activating the safety lever. Mine was old enough that the safety had to be off to work the bolt for unloading.
Muzzle was in a safe direction each time but still took a few years off my life.
Dan
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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 29, 2016 6:49:02 GMT -5
I have 5-6 of the Remington 700's in calibers from 17 Fireball up to 35 Remington, & never had AD... not doubting those who have... just never had an issue with any of mine... would be curious how the trigger is on their factory fixes???
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Nov 29, 2016 7:07:32 GMT -5
I've never had it happen on a 700, but have had it happen on 2 Rem. Custom Shop XP-100's, Once when a round was being chambered with the safety off, and once when the safety was being released. The "safety released" situation was duplicated a number of times with the gun unloaded. These XPs had their triggers adjusted by an extremely talented gunsmith, but the adjustment had workrd loose after many, many rounds. He subsequently put things right.
My take is that all things mechanical can fail, when they reach a critical point.
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Post by DiamondD on Dec 8, 2016 15:45:36 GMT -5
My 30-06 that I've had for 35 years fired when I flipped the safety off. I thought I must've been at fault until it did it again the same day. Took it to a Remington authorized gunsmith and it was fixed. I was still pretty nervous about it until several range outings. Now I use it with confidence. (although not often as I hunt with handguns) Mine had never had any trigger work done. It just fired when activating the safety lever. Mine was old enough that the safety had to be off to work the bolt for unloading. Muzzle was in a safe direction each time but still took a few years off my life. Dan I'll have to talk to my brother and make sure but I think his was this way also. I think that is when his went off, after he chambered a round and went to put it on safe. I may be wrong though, it could have been when he closed the bolt. Dean |
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Post by 2sheriffs on Dec 9, 2016 17:36:24 GMT -5
Are we going to have to send them to Remington or will the authorized repair stations fix them. I have a 722 in 22 Mag and a 700 BDL 6mm Remington that had a recall for the safety I don't remember how many years ago and they had me take them to Accuracy Gun Shop in Henderson Nevada (Las Vegas). They changed the safety and rebuilt the triggers at that time. I have a 78 in 223 and a 700 ADL in 22-250 that were not involved in that recall.
Ron-Just 4 miles West of Downtown Pahrump, Nevada
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Post by 2sheriffs on Dec 9, 2016 18:09:41 GMT -5
I checked around and Wild Wild West in Las Vegas is a repair station and you have to contact Remingtom to get authorization. I talked to the gunsmith and he said he had done 4 of them today. You can take them to the authorized repair stations or Remington will send you a prepaid box to send them back to them. The gunsmith at Wild Wild West said that they had to set the trigger pull to 4 lbs., but it is user adjustable.
Ron
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Post by DiamondD on Dec 9, 2016 19:24:45 GMT -5
Yeah my local gunsmith is a friend. He has done a bunch of them. Apparently it is a simple fix and you should have it back very quickly unless your gunsmith is real busy.
Dean
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