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Post by sheriff on Jun 25, 2014 20:46:43 GMT -5
Oops, that was 'before'.
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Jun 26, 2014 5:58:04 GMT -5
That just drives me BESERK!!!! Fermin, It's "berserk". Had to defend poor ol' Callshot, even though he's always guilty. People that live in glass houses ....
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jun 26, 2014 7:04:49 GMT -5
Oh now Ken, that glass houses thing just hurts.... :-(
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jun 29, 2014 10:54:15 GMT -5
Went out yesterday and shot all those red bullets Dick sent me. I seated them on 13.0 H110 @1400 fps. Conditions were pretty harsh, strong gusty winds and a double dose of humidity. Even with a good rest and my FA 97 it was hard to prove the accuracy of Dicks bullet. Best groups at 26 yards were 1.5". It did take a few cylinders to get it to settle in with the red bullets. So, while I think it would/could do some better I couldn't prove it yesterday. Compared to a non painted bullet, I saw more of a tendency for the reds to fling a flyer. Again, keep the conditions in mind. I also shot a bunch of non coated regularly lubed bullets. These performed only slightly better in my sixgun. The FA guns display pretty right tolerances and I also noted the red bullets had to be pressed in to seat. The red bullets also print a bit lower, say an inch.
Why go shoot on such a crummy day? Pretty simple really. One needs to know his limitations in said conditions. Besides, it beats staying home and watching TV. I checked my standard 327 accuracy load running the 120 LBT and still could only get 1.5" with it. So there ya go.
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Post by callshot on Jun 29, 2014 11:01:20 GMT -5
Have you acquired the name Can'tshoot now? I tested some yesterday also. They were about the same size groups, but the PC ones were a little more round groups and the lubed ones were a little more of a vertical group. It was a small test and needs more time etc. My testing was only in my 32 Maggie. Steve
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Post by sal on Jun 30, 2014 13:34:51 GMT -5
I finished shake & bake and the Hammerhead shot awsome. 2" at 25 yrds,not so good but have sore wrist. Also baked some 41 mag and LBT 230 grn 45 acp bullets. Will load and shoot Thursday.I think the just ads more fun to casting and reloading. Thanks to Dick for all your help. Barrel in Buckeye looks like New.
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Post by snappy on Jul 1, 2014 1:15:53 GMT -5
...got to STOP one of these Sledgehammers so we can get an idea of how it is expanding. I posted these pics about a month ago on another forum and *thought* I had posted here too, whoops . Weren't shot into meat and bone but it does show something. Maybe relevant here. Here are a couple of .32 Sixgun Sledgehammers I recovered from the berm at the range. Fermin did a great job designing this bullet and Sixshot has sure shown plenty of evidence that they work on game! These were shot out of a 3" SP-101 and are a great bullet for this gun. These bullets were cast from range scrap with a bit of lino added, water quenched and tumbled with 45/45/10. The load is 12-ish gr of W296. This L hp drops right around 133 gr and these recovered slugs weigh 130.9 and 131.2 respectively. Diameter measured at the widest point is .575" and .6475"! You can almost see the angle of the gravel bank they were shot into, (25-30 yds out). I'm impressed, and so is my SP-101!
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Post by williamiorg on Jul 7, 2014 20:28:45 GMT -5
For several years we used a three sided open top wood trough. The hydraulic action of bullets hitting the trough would expand the sides and pull the screws holding it together. We used white trash bage and would fill three to catch pistol bullet. Cut open the white bags and the lead trail shows up clearly on the bags. Lately when I just want to catch one or two bullet I use cardboard boxes with trash bags filled with water. These 115-grain Speer bullets fired from the 4” Charter Arms Patriot expand nicely. Water mmay not be a test for flesh but it is reasonably uniform when comparing bullets or adjusting velocities.
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Post by jsh on Jul 8, 2014 6:29:26 GMT -5
Are you guys running the cast "butt naked" no check? I have read and heard of good results doing this with a gc bullet. My results gave a lot of flyers and large groups in everything I tried it in. So once again me being hard headed or just set in my ways, a check bullet gets a check for me. I looked around at accurate molds and see there are a couple of designs I will look at a bit more. Jeff
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Post by snappy on Jul 8, 2014 8:29:52 GMT -5
Jeff, I shot both checked and non-checked and couldn't see any difference between the two. Small sample that it is, the bullets seem to be hitting the target square and not tumbling etc. All my shooting was limited to 25yds though, so not sure about greater distances.
JeffP
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Post by jsh on Jul 8, 2014 10:18:54 GMT -5
I was shooting medium and plinking loads and still couldn't get what I was after. Went to a plain base and it came around better but still not as good as a gc but good enough for the purpose I was after. I think maybe the plain base "bites" and slugs up a bit better when swatted in the hind end. I thought maybe the powder coated gc would act some what better as in a jacketed bullet. Only a bit of testing will tell in my rigs. JeffH
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Post by sixshot on Jul 8, 2014 10:33:38 GMT -5
I haven't tested any without the GC but I will eventually. Some are reporting good accuracy without a check even in rifles but thats just second hand info. I very seldom have ever shot a GC design without the check. Its also true that I seldom use a GC for anything in sixguns, its seldom needed but I think its necessary with the 327 & high velocity & also in the 357 Maximum for the same reason. 99% of the time with the correct alloy & velocity a GC is just wasted time & money but there are some exceptions. Accuracy requirements are different on paper than they are on big game, I don't need 1" accuracy at 25 yds to hit the 8" lung area of a deer or 10-12" lung area on an elk. Most big game is taken at 50-75 yds, at least for me here in Idaho.
Dick
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Post by williamiorg on Jul 8, 2014 20:42:10 GMT -5
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Post by williamiorg on Jul 8, 2014 20:43:52 GMT -5
Naturaly it cut the dates off. I'll work on that!
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Post by jsh on Jul 9, 2014 6:48:40 GMT -5
Dick you know as well as I do it is always the gun or ammo, never "me" oh gosh no, lol. Thus the tinkering. I am a glutton for punishment, I actually like to tinker with the problem child that everyone says cant or won't shoot. That is actually what got me going on the 32-20 some years back. I have got my harbor freight red magic dust and a buddy found some of the black air soft pellets. FYI for those looking for them found these at academy sports. They say the black ones are heavier than the others and a lot of folks don't use them, making them not real popular. I am itching to go on this powder coating thing. Am still looking for a oven, used cheapie. Got access to good thermometers from work. Jeff
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