Non-Trailboss... powder puff loads for 460 S&W ???

[magnumwheelman]

So... I'm building ( having built ) a Uberti Walker cartridge conversion into the 45 Black Powder Magnum... my builder is strengthening the gun enough to shoot ( regularly ) "normal" to medium pressure 45 Colt smokeless loads through the open top...

I'm having the headstamps knurled off ( to start with ) 200 - 460 S&W cases ( the case is unchanged for use in the BPM )

I normally use Trailboss for all my cowboy loads ( both 45 Colt & 38 Special ) & with the availability of some powders, after I got all my 45 Colt, & half of MRS 38 Specials loaded, I'm out of Trailboss... I have powder puff loads for the 460 using Trailboss, have not been able to find printed data for any other powder, with pressure data attached to it...

I have many other cartridges, which I load "outside the printed data" because either the gun or cartridge has been customized... so I have a couple options with which to play...

but curious if anyone out there loads 45 Colt type pressures, for practice rounds for the 460 S&W ( I know I could just shoot 45 Colt, but prefer both for looks ( with the big ol gun ) & accuracy ( to prevent a 3/4" of bullet jump with a cast bullet ) to use the big case... )

[oregon45]

Try Accurate 5744.

[TERRY MURBACH]

OH MY..... you do know that what you are asking for is an oxymoron of contradictions. Just remember, you CANNOT have it both ways.

[Encore64]

AA-5744 and IMR 4759 have both worked well for me in the 500 Magnum. No reason they won't do the same for you in the 460 case.

[seancass]

Good old fashioned Black Powder!

[Markbo]

Apr 18, 2014 11:08:51 GMT -5 TERRY MURBACH said:

OH MY..... you do know that what you are asking for is an oxymoron of contradictions. Just remember, you CANNOT have it both ways.

Any oxymoron of contradictions... I'll have to ponder that a bit, but it sure reminds me of trying to find lighter practice loads for my .475 BFR.

[magnumwheelman]

got to test fire a cylinder full of primers last night ( nice little dents perfectly centered on all ) the ejector housing its requiring some ball mill work on the Walker barrel block to line up, but I expect the 7" barreled revolver will be full functional by this week's end... then I'll shoot it a while to see if any improvements are needed before the cosmetics... grips are shaped & sanded, & have their 1st coat of finish ( this was purchased as a "kit gun" fully assembled, but brass grip frame rough, grips just rough fit, & no finish on the metal parts... I'm surprised at the piece of wood on it... I had thought about getting some aftermarket grips, but the factory wood is particularly nice

once the "460 S&W" gets knurled off the case heads, I'm thinking about starting at 10 grains, but loading between 10 & 13 grains of Unique... should give me a period looking ,dirty, smokey load that shoots pretty good, but is non corrosive...

if I take this up to the CASS regionals this fall, they have a night black powder shoot, where "the fire" is what it's all about... I might experiment with loading some black powder cases for this event... think a full case of single "F" powder aught to throw some pretty big fire??? I'm guessing this revolver will get some positive reaction when loaded with black

BTW... we did a lot of research on case hardening / pack hardening, & were able to get about .015" of surface hardness on the frame ( which is just what we were looking for ) the cylinder arbor has been replaced with modern tool steel, & the threads we changed to the next size bigger where it screws into the frame, to increase the strength at the back, coupled with the surface hardness, it aught to be quite sufficient... the assembly is held in position perfectly, by a tool steel taper pin, & a hardened tool steel wedge fliped to enter from the opposite side, ( because of the ejector housing fit ) backs it up, as well as a screw where the load lever pivot used to be, was flipped around, & now goes through the arbor, & holds the ejector tube on the gun... all in all, the gun should be safe for a full time diet of any factory 45 Colt loading, or mid level hand load pressures in the 460 S&W case