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Post by oregon45 on Oct 20, 2013 19:02:46 GMT -5
So I'm thinking of having a #5 style revolver made from one of my Ruger 44 Flattops using the Power Custom grip frame, Belt Mountain base pin, Bowen rear sight, the usual. Going to start accumulating parts so I can save some waiting time once the revolver is at the gunsmith (likely Jack Huntington but perhaps Alan Harton, from the work I've seen either should do a fantastic job). My first question is: should I go with Power Custom's Bisley hammer and trigger (as suggested on their website) or would I be just as well off with the Ruger factory Bisley hammer and trigger? I'm sure I'll have more questions, but that's it for now. Oh, and pictures of #5 frames on Ruger Flattops are always appreciated. Seen many of them already but repetition in the viewing of fine firearms is no vice
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Post by Doc Barranti on Oct 20, 2013 19:27:06 GMT -5
I had Alan Harton build mine on a 5.5" NM Flattop and we kept the factory hammer and trigger. Not that the hammer and trigger have anything to do with it, but it is quite possibly the most accurate 44 special in my collection!
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Post by oregon45 on Oct 20, 2013 19:38:36 GMT -5
Thanks Mike, did you use a Bisley Flattop for your base gun? Reading over the original post, I realized I forgot to add one critical part: a Barranti #5 holster
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Post by kings6 on Oct 20, 2013 20:01:17 GMT -5
If you are starting with a bisley you might as well use the factory trigger and hammer. Either of those guys would do a good job for you as well. The only thing is I know Alan has done the #5 base pin latch but I have not seen one Jack has done. Whoever you have do the gun, make sure they address the interface between the upper mainframe and the ears at the top of the grip frame so the transition is smooth and not stepped. Warning, it may require some delicate metal work to pull this part off. This is the area I was talking about. This is a TLA Improved #5 and you can see how Grover did a nice job of this interface. Here is a Ruger flat top #5 which you have seen before.
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Post by steve on Oct 20, 2013 20:46:15 GMT -5
I've talked to Jack about the #5 basepin latch. He's done a few and said machining the frame isn't that difficult, but making the latch and parts from scratch is pretty labor intensive.
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Post by oregon45 on Oct 20, 2013 21:43:16 GMT -5
I'm not going to have the #5 latch made. I appreciate the craftsmanship but, from a practical perspective, i don't see it being worth the additional expense on anything but a full on #5 recreation or close duplicate.
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Post by oregon45 on Oct 20, 2013 21:47:50 GMT -5
I'll be starting from a standard Flattop, not a Bisley. The Bisley's I like right out of the box, with a few minor modifications.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 21:52:13 GMT -5
the Power Custom hammer does not have the bisley hump on the back of the hammer, leaving a gap between the frame and hammer. just something to think about.
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Post by boxhead on Oct 21, 2013 5:36:40 GMT -5
The interface that kings6 mentions is absolutely critical. Alan did this Bisely for me and it needed a fair bit of TIG to get it right. One done not so well...
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Post by CraigC on Oct 21, 2013 10:02:24 GMT -5
I'd be inclined to use the PC parts as a half cock notch is always preferable for me. As far as I know, the have Bisley hammers for both Bisley and Blackhawk/Vaquero grip frames.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 21, 2013 10:32:57 GMT -5
I have all the parts you need to build a #5 style sixgun on a OM Flattop including the sixgun itself. You can PM me if interested.
fermin
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Post by AxeHandle on Oct 21, 2013 14:13:40 GMT -5
Yikes! Now that is an offer! Bet the Dawgs gets a few PMs about that. Maybe I'll send one too!
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Post by oregon45 on Oct 21, 2013 14:22:55 GMT -5
I have all the parts you need to build a #5 style sixgun on a OM Flattop including the sixgun itself. You can PM me if interested. fermin Thanks, I appreciate the offer but I've got a 44 Flattop donor lined up for this project.
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Post by steve on Oct 21, 2013 14:29:26 GMT -5
I have all the parts you need to build a #5 style sixgun on a OM Flattop including the sixgun itself. You can PM me if interested. fermin Thanks, I appreciate the offer but I've got a 44 Flattop donor lined up for this project. If not for too many irons in the fire I would snag this in a heart beat!!! Know doubt, fair deal, at a fair price, from a fair man!!
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Post by newrugersafan on Oct 22, 2013 23:22:19 GMT -5
This is a Powers grip frame and a Ruger Bisley hammer on a Lipseys 44 Special . If you are going to use a new model there is enough metal on the grip frame to make a nice smooth transistion from the cylinder frame, as others have noted you will need to have some welding done to the cylinder frame if you use an old model to get the nice transition shown on Boxhead's gun. Alan Harton welded up the ears on my old model flat top and used a Ruger Bisley back strap and a Powers Colt front strap to make a #5 grip frame. Mike
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