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Post by justahunter on Apr 29, 2013 18:45:45 GMT -5
Does anyone have experience with the new Para Ordinance 1911s? I have heard much about them lately, but have been thinking of getting a 45 or 40 in the wide body frame.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Apr 29, 2013 18:53:41 GMT -5
I have had Para's and STI wide body 40's. The STI is far better.
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Post by majorKAP on Apr 29, 2013 19:56:28 GMT -5
I have a couple of the Para double-stacks. I have an STI, a Kimber, and a Wilson Combat double-stack as well. The Para has worked as well for me as the others, at a lesser initial cost. Then again, I'm not on of those guys staking my life or livelihood on it.
Incidentally, the word is Ordnance, not Ordinance. One is ammunition and firepower,etc.....the other is a law or an authoritative regulation.
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Post by 98redline on Apr 30, 2013 11:17:01 GMT -5
PARAs seem to be all over the place regarding quality.
I have a P14-45 from about 1994. The gun as shipped was really a POS. The slide and frame were great but everything else was....well, not such good quality. Lots of plastic parts and cheap castings. At that time most of the guys purchasing the hi-cap 1911s were doing it for IPSC Limited class and other practical shooting sports. The gun was really just bought for the slide/frame/barrel, and everything else was thrown away and replaced. That is what I did with mine. I had also heard that the stainless guns from that era had some major issues (mostly tolerance type issues).
When Para moved to the US, the quality and tolerances went out the window for quite awhile. Lots of bad press about out of spec frames/holes and guns that simply could not be made to run reliably.
In the recent past I believe they have worked out most of the problems and the guns seem to be of better quality.
I think that if you are looking for a base gun to work up, then the wide body para is not a bad deal. If you are looking for something to take out of the box and just use, I think there are better options (STI would probably be my first choice).
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Post by justahunter on Apr 30, 2013 12:05:25 GMT -5
Thanks guys.
Oh and sorry for mispeeling a word.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 30, 2013 17:24:42 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Oh and sorry for mispeeling a word. ;D
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Post by buck on May 21, 2013 5:07:16 GMT -5
I prefer misspeeling
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Post by TERRY MURBACH on May 21, 2013 11:14:28 GMT -5
MISS PEELING WAS A REAL BABE.....
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Post by subsonic on May 21, 2013 12:28:28 GMT -5
I can tell you that while every other high capacity pistol was sold out at the distributors I use, you could often still get Paras....
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Post by 223fan on May 22, 2013 19:44:48 GMT -5
My brother has a para 1911 I have shoot a lot. I like it, I have not had any malfunctions with it.
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Post by Paden on Jul 13, 2013 21:58:42 GMT -5
Have no experience with the new ones, but have carried a P12-45 for about 20 years. It's a fine sidearm.
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Post by maxcactus on Jul 14, 2013 3:33:36 GMT -5
WARNING: Thread hijack! Incidentally, the word is Ordnance, not Ordinance. One is ammunition and firepower,etc.....the other is a law or an authoritative regulation. As a self-appointed grammar and spelling Nazi (I have to be, my mother was an English teacher and I'm homeschooling ten children), you warm my heart, majorKap! It didn't escape me that you know the definitions of and difference between "proximal" and "distal" as well! I really shouldn't indulge in scotch before perusing this forum!
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 14, 2013 7:09:51 GMT -5
My experiences with Para products was positive. Did like the STI/SVI products better. My best Para experience was hearing about a local shooter with a Hogue custom 1911 who bought a Para frame and swapped all the parts over. I later saw a Para advertised locally and recognized it as the one built with the Hogue gun parts. I bought the Para and got all the original Hogue parts with it. When reconstructed it was one fine single stack 1911. That said I ended my wide body phase a good 10-15 years ago. Realized that the single stack fit my hand so much better and I just don't need that much weight in a holster hanging anywhere on my body.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 13:28:06 GMT -5
My Para was fine. I did however make upgrades to it over the years. The first thing I did has to hold it over the garbage can and pull the hammer and sear pins, letting everything that came loose fall into the trash. I replaced everything with Wilson and Nowlin pieces from my stash (I've had a lot of 1011s over the years and actually stock parts for them). Next came the grip safety and thumb safeties. Wilsons drop-in grip safety darn near dropped right in. Thumb safeties don't work that way. Then the sights got upgraded. After that I was ready to replace the barrel, but somebody offered me more for it than I valued it, so it went home with him. So, the slide and frame were fine at least...
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Post by ericp on Jul 14, 2013 17:03:23 GMT -5
My father sold marking equipment for several years after being a tool and die man for 15 years. He bid on a job with Para so we went up there to tour the factory in Ontario as a mini vacation. This would have been in 2004-5. Very strange situation, very high security as the guns were being made in place where they are not legal. An armored truck would back up to a gated loading dock that had a police office present for loading the products for export. It was interesting to me as it the first time I saw guns being put together in mass production (the marking company he worked for was 4 buildings over from Mag-Na-Port in an industrial park). We got to shoot a little bit while we were there and had no problems with any of the guns we shot. I haven't held, let alone shot one since then.
Eric
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