jfo4
.30 Stingray
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Post by jfo4 on Dec 7, 2012 14:40:27 GMT -5
I have one at Jacks now with a fluted cylinder and scallops on a bisley. I plan running it like a +P .45 colt. I think while strength may be an issue, recoil forces on such a light gun will be a little to generous for full horse loads.
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Post by AxeHandle on Dec 7, 2012 14:44:42 GMT -5
I'll repeat...So far as strength goes no doubt in my mind. Ruger answered that question back in the 50s when they tried to make the mid frame Blackhawk a 44 magnum. That Bowen and Clements won't build a 480 on the mid frame BH adds more fuel to the fire. I'd think that Ruger discontinuing their 480 on the SRH is a bit more to think about. Bottom Line is in a world of responsible loaders there should never be a problem. We have a world full of responsible loaders but there will always be the few that think the laws of physics don't apply to them.
Do I want a mid frame 480... Yes, some day. My redline loading days and using recipes from under the table are gone. Right now these 60 year old hands are appreciating the fact that I'm ordering custom revolvers chambered for stuff like 22LR, 22Mag, 32-20, and Hornet based wildcats.
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Post by Lee Martin on Dec 7, 2012 15:13:01 GMT -5
The Huntington mid-frame will safely handle any 480 load (assuming those loads are within SAAMI). Run pressure beyond that and it could be problematic. But that holds for pushing any cartridge past SAAMI, not just mid-frame 480s. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time"
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jfo4
.30 Stingray
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Post by jfo4 on Dec 7, 2012 15:29:36 GMT -5
I'm super excited to take delivery! Jason at the shop called me yesterday, asking about what finish I wanted. So it has to be really close to being finished up. I have two Beartooth cast designs and some Speer gold dots to run. I have trail boss and h-110 ready to make up loads.
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Post by whitworth on Dec 7, 2012 17:31:49 GMT -5
I'd think that Ruger discontinuing their 480 on the SRH is a bit more to think about. Ruger's decision to discontinue the .480 was a marketing decision and had nothing to do with the strength of the revolvers they were producing.
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Post by subsonic on Dec 7, 2012 17:58:00 GMT -5
Ruger's decision to discontinue the .480 was a POOR marketing decision and had nothing to do with the strength of the revolvers they were producing. There, fixed it! ;D Have you SEEN what the .480 Alaskans are going for??!!
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Post by whitworth on Dec 7, 2012 18:09:01 GMT -5
You're right, of course, but the bean counters have the final say, unfortunately.
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Post by AxeHandle on Dec 7, 2012 18:47:16 GMT -5
Sounds good enough until you make note of the fact that they first made a 5 shot 480 SRH before they decided to discontinue the 480 SRH.
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steve
.375 Atomic
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Post by steve on Dec 7, 2012 19:39:54 GMT -5
I'm assuming the 44 mag mid frame blackhawks ruger blew up in the the 50's were 6 shots? A 5 shot 44 45 or 480 on a mid-frame is plenty strong. The only problem I can see is you might be limited with cartridge OAL in that shorter cylinder.
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dmize
.401 Bobcat
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Post by dmize on Dec 7, 2012 20:10:02 GMT -5
All other things aside,when you get outside the real sixgun nuts,not very many have heard of a 475. A few more have heard of the 454,HEARD not fired.. Take into account most American males,bigger=better=MUCH worse. I and most others realise that the 480 kicks a LOT less than a 454. But then again, look at the price of ammo. Price a factory box of 480 Ruger,much less,a box of 454 compared to 44 Mag and a "white box" of 44 Mag. Todays society may be more "informed" but not much more studied in real the real world.
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Post by bushog on Dec 7, 2012 20:34:58 GMT -5
Jack told me yesterday that he tested my gun with the Grizzly Ammo 375gn Cast Performance bullets rated at 1200 fps and that it shot wonderfully.
It will carry plenty of punch.
It's a heavier load than what Glen shot the buffalo with he posted pics of if my memory serves me.
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Post by whitworth on Dec 8, 2012 2:27:32 GMT -5
I and most others realise that the 475 kicks a LOT less than a 454. But then again, look at the price of ammo. Not the way I load it. If you run a 420 grain bullet up or around 1,350 fps, I have found it kicks harder than the heaviest loads I have shot out of my Casulls over the years. Buffalo Bore's 440 grain loads chronographed over 1,350 out of my .475 SRH. While the recoil impulse is faster than the .475's, in my opinion, the .475 (loaded to spec) has a harder shove. Again, JMHO.
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dmize
.401 Bobcat
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Post by dmize on Dec 8, 2012 8:18:03 GMT -5
Well Whit,that didnt come out quite the way I intended,thats what I get for not proof reading. I was trying to defend the 480 and the reason it went away.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Dec 8, 2012 8:27:37 GMT -5
Ok then it makes sense. Cuz the 475 will smack you pretty good. The 454 recoil is very much different than the 475 to me. Much faster. And the 475 is pretty dang fast coming back atcha when you light the primer....
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dmize
.401 Bobcat
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Post by dmize on Dec 8, 2012 9:25:48 GMT -5
I fixed it.
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