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Post by hammerdown77 on Sept 24, 2012 7:45:47 GMT -5
These guys use 7 gauge steel in their safes. Steel thickness and welds make the biggest difference in how resistant to attack these "residential security containers" are. Most of the safes you buy from the name brand manufacturers are going to have 12 or 10 gauge steel, unless you buy their flagship model, and then you might get 8 gauge. www.sturdysafe.com
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mtnbkr
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Post by mtnbkr on Sept 24, 2012 9:18:57 GMT -5
Because no safe is impenetrable, I placed my safe in a non-obvious location (this worked when our home was burglarized 2 years ago) and have an insurance policy that covers replacement value. Few of my guns are irreplaceable, the ones that can't be replaced are only such because they're heirlooms from family and friends (and in those cases have a low financial value).
When our house was burglarized, the thieves were within inches of the safe and never noticed it. How do I know? My range bag (containing a gun), a silver trumpet, and other items were sitting on top and not touched. They did find my bedside pistol "safe" and took it with them, but we recovered that as one of the thieves stopped not 100yds from the house to try and bash it open. That delayed him enough for the cops to arrive and arrest him. He never breached it and the damage to the contents was minimal (and fully covered).
A thief may breach a safe he finds, but won't get inside the one he doesn't find. Something to think about...
Chris
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Post by nolongcolt on Sept 24, 2012 12:12:51 GMT -5
The whole thing just makes me sick! Unfortunately safes and locks just keep out the honest and unmotivated.
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lange1
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Post by lange1 on Sept 24, 2012 15:41:41 GMT -5
I talked with a sheriff a year or two ago who had his top of the line safe breached from the side when some guys with a plasma torch cut into it in his garage. They thought it took 7 minutes to remove his collection. I can barely type this it's so ugly.
When I was in school I musta read 20 cases about how spring guns are illegal, but I think about how effective it'd be from time to time. I mean, how motivated would a thief be if he just saw his buddy get his arm not-so-neatly removed by a 12 ga that tripped when he opened the door?
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Post by cas on Sept 24, 2012 20:37:18 GMT -5
I think a carbide blade in a circular saw will open most safes.
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gjn
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Post by gjn on Sept 25, 2012 19:07:44 GMT -5
I had a friend who kept his safe on the second floor of his house. Thieves broke in and tied a cable around the safe to their pickup and pulled the safe through the side of the house. They then loaded it in the truck and drove off with it. If someone has the time and is truly determined its tough to protect yourself. A nightmare I hope I never experience.
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Post by arokcrwlr on Sept 25, 2012 21:08:58 GMT -5
Do you think that a room with three walls being 8" reinforced concrete and the remaining wall being metal stud framed 3" on center with a vault door be any harder to compromise? Would it be adequate?
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turbo
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Post by turbo on Sept 25, 2012 21:11:01 GMT -5
NO.
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Post by tek4260 on Sept 25, 2012 21:38:38 GMT -5
It all depends on how smart the crook is. The safe pictured was hit by a pro and probably knew the owner. They knew exactly how to get into the safe.
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