turbo
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Post by turbo on Sept 22, 2012 9:32:20 GMT -5
Saw this on another site I visit...NOT ME! THANK GOD! My house was broken into yesterday broad daylight 3 neighbors home didn't see anything. They got in through my garage door by pulling the manual lever to the door with a coat hanger tossed all the drawers cut a hole in the top of my gun safe took 2 revolvers and my AR15 they had 4 of my other rifles ready to go but did not get to take them. They made quick work of my gun safe they turned it sideways and cut a triangle hole at the top corner to pull everything out. They also got 5 watches my coin collection misc. jewelry some purses of my wife's birth certificate old ID's and SS card that were all in with the coin collection in a wooden box in my closet. I hope they have a gun cleaning accident I hate thieves. What kind of saw could do this so fast??!
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paulg
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Post by paulg on Sept 22, 2012 9:47:17 GMT -5
I certainly don't know. If I had to guess I'd say it was some kind of rotary tool/saw. I'd also venture to guess that the thieves knew the victim and came prepared to get into his safe.
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Post by subsonic on Sept 22, 2012 9:59:53 GMT -5
Metabo maybe? The cut looks so clean.... laser? The insulation doesn't look burnt?
Mine is bolted to the floor and I have several retired neighbors that are home all day and have nothing better to do than call the cops.
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Post by humphrey on Sept 22, 2012 10:27:32 GMT -5
Ten minutes with a sawz-all with a decent metal cutting blade. Thing is in a garage, quite possibly the dudes own sawz-all.
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 22, 2012 10:35:23 GMT -5
Pretty scarey.... We all know that these safes/vaults are no more than hinderances for the thief who knows what he has to defeat and has the time and privacy to get it done... A soon-to-be exwife had a locksmith come open mine. Greenleaf type II and he didn't even make a mark.
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Post by ohnomrbillk on Sept 22, 2012 11:03:31 GMT -5
The location of my former residence had some seriously proficient thieves. These guys would defeat your garage door and back a pickup with a topper into the garage. They shut the door and then use the pickup full of tools to take apart anything they want. These crews typically hit you again in about 6 months. They figure you have replaced everything by then, and clean you out a second time. A friend of mine had is safe torched open. The insulation doesn't look black at all. I'm told it is gypsum board. He replaced his safe, but it now wears this sticker: www.libertysafe.com/accessory-danger-black-powder-enclosed-sticker-ps-17-pg-49.htmlI'll let you decide if it is a worthwhile warning or not.
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Post by tek4260 on Sept 22, 2012 14:20:25 GMT -5
looking at the shape of the cut, I'd guess it was a portaband.
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greygt
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Post by greygt on Sept 22, 2012 14:43:51 GMT -5
It would be worth it to me to actually put black powder in my safe. Just thinking of the results to the crooks would be great. Think of the tax dollars it would save not having to imprison them!
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Post by leftysrh on Sept 22, 2012 21:50:54 GMT -5
I have looked at the construction and the steel type that my safe is made from. To be quite FRANK, they are built from mild carbon steel and MIG welded. Personally, know how to cut steel (from my skilled trade/profession) it would be rather easy to cut into someones safe. Unfrotunately we aren't talking about a high grade of steel or construction. They buy time and protect from ignorant thieves and thats all in my opinion. That being said, I still keep mine locked up in my safe. Wish I could afford a REAL safe.
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Post by Markbo on Sept 23, 2012 10:26:52 GMT -5
What kind of safe was that?
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turbo
.30 Stingray
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Post by turbo on Sept 23, 2012 11:10:04 GMT -5
He said that It's a Browning Pro steel gun safe.
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Post by bagdadjoe on Sept 23, 2012 17:50:09 GMT -5
If you break in my house and take my .44, be sure not to load it with the 6 rounds of ammo with the red primers that are lying next to it, those are the ones I accidently packed with Bullseye.
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Post by squawberryman on Sept 23, 2012 20:30:49 GMT -5
Definitely a Portaband. Look at the scratches to the left of the two ingoing cuts. Portabands are right handed tools, with the blade guide to the left of the blade. Laid down 90, the scratch is beneath the blade by a quarter. Good guess Tek4260
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Post by mnimrod45 on Sept 23, 2012 21:20:56 GMT -5
Anyone with enough motivation will get into any safe, they just serve to slow the bad guy down or change his mind. Looking at that safe, it doesn't look like a very high grade model. The steel is very thin and the sheetrock inside is only for fire protection, not security. You get what you pay for with a gun safe. Again most safes will deter a bad guy from even trying but as they learn, more and more of them will be trying when they learn how easy it is. They will almost always go in from the side of the safe (like they did on this one) instead of the door but most buyers worry about the thickness of the door which is rarely accessed. When buying, don't skimp, I spent a lot of money on a safe but realize what I have inside is worth a heck of a lot more than I spent. I didnt' get the highest rated safe I could get but it is much heavier than the one in picture. If any one is interested, a local shop builds some pretty impressive safes, I heard about them but didn't realize they were local until recently. I had a tour of the shop and can tell you it would take a lot of work to get into their lowest security safe. Their high end safe is about the most secure safe I have ever seen. Look them up. I don't have one but am hoping I can afford one when I get ready to buy my next one, they aren't cheap. www.graffundersafes.com/
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usajon
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Post by usajon on Sept 23, 2012 22:30:45 GMT -5
I don't have many guns, but have photographs/serial numbers for every one of them.
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