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Post by nobearsyet on Jul 4, 2009 11:58:44 GMT -5
I think you need to sell me a set of those sheds, I generally take the smaller deer (by choice, and not small size wise, but rather small rack size) as I have never been one to really care much about trophies, althoug hI have taken a "monster" or 2 in my time
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Post by Aggie01 on Jul 5, 2009 19:27:31 GMT -5
We are right around the I-35 corridor, almost at the Oklahoma border. (Cooke County)
The 8 point pictured above went about 120-130 before field dressing.
That's reallly about the average size we have around our area.
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Post by Doc Barranti on Jul 6, 2009 8:30:47 GMT -5
I have shot deer in Texas that two grown men (full sized men, not Fermin sized men) could barely lift into a pick up. For those that don't know Fermin, this means he could have easily lifted the deer by himself!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 6, 2009 8:38:28 GMT -5
There he goes again all off topic......Its appropriate that he is standing by a tree in that photo. He is waiting on a phone call. I may be short but at least Im not squirrelly.....
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Post by Markbo on Jul 6, 2009 13:29:14 GMT -5
...Its appropriate that he is standing by a tree in that photo. He is waiting on a phone call.... I think that kinda proves you're a little squirrely.
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Post by zeus on Jul 6, 2009 14:14:20 GMT -5
I've shot deer in Texas that I picked up by the scruff of the neck one handed and wondered if I'd get 30lbs of meat off of it. I have shot deer in Texas that two grown men (full sized men, not Fermin sized men) could barely lift into a pick up. I have shot everything in between too. Come on fellahs... to talk down about Texas deer is to not know the whole story. They may be small in the Hill Country, but there are millions of them. There is a reason they are that small. With some judicioius culling and a sound protein feed supplement plan, we took 100lb, 16" bucks one year to 150lb 20" HEAVY horned bucks two years later. How's this for a Summers worth of sheds? Not to jump on the Marbo/2dogs debate but I have to admit a notice a few things funny about the picture Marbo..... 1. The coloring on the antlers seems a little light for a single summer of sheds. I'm thinking some of them are a little older than you mention..... 2. I don't know about the deer in TX but the ones in Mississippi that I grew up hunting didn't shed the entire top of their skull when the antlers fell out.......I'm thinking that there are quite a few in that picture that really didn't like the way evolution treated them and probably wished they had horns rather than antlers after the top of their head fell off Probably does not lead to increase antler growth either.... How far off am I on my evaluation of the photo? Also, for the record, from the background of the photo, it appears that this is a high fenced area. The ability of controlling and helping get mass and body size on a fenced ranch in my opinion is much easier to accomplish due mainly to the owner's ability to control the surroundings. In open areas, landowner's have to worry about the neighboring property owners and other environmental concerns. If the neighbor shoots anything legal, its tough to really make a difference on your end. I've been in that boat also and those times, i didn't mind if someone shot a smaller buck as long as they were happy with it. So, I don't think that comparing open ground deer to pen deer is the same in all honesty.
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Post by Flatlander on Jul 6, 2009 15:43:15 GMT -5
High fence? That's not a high fence. That's simply net wire. Are you seeing something I'm not?
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Post by zeus on Jul 6, 2009 16:01:26 GMT -5
High fence? That's not a high fence. That's simply net wire. Are you seeing something I'm not? Nope, just couldn't tell how tall it was. That's why I asked if I was seeing it correctly Mark. Thanks, it didn't look tall enough to keep deer in or out but the wire looked the same as most of the higher ones I've seen. I was curious if the property may be fenced higher than the "cabin/house" area...... GS
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Post by Flatlander on Jul 6, 2009 16:13:17 GMT -5
No tellling what the rest of the boundary is, but I expect the fence in view is 4' or so. A type of wire often used in sheep operations, overkill for cattle. However, I do tend to agree: I get a lot more excited over trophy bucks that are "pure wild" than I do those that are "groomed for success" ... in some areas, those feeders are so prevalent that killing deer is just that, rather than hunting, but even that issue has a lot to do with what else is out there for the deer to eat. I keep some feeders running during the season, but tend to have more luck and more fun doing spot and stalk. Now is the time to insert the gratuitous "Monster Texas Whitetail" photo: 110% wild ... Feel free to grovel and lick my boots now
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Post by sixshot on Jul 6, 2009 17:02:38 GMT -5
Very nice buck Mark, is that a lever gun I see, can't tell, I thought you slept with a Ruger #1 under your pillow ;D Ever notice how he always has a smile on his face, must like what he's doing!
Dick
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Post by Flatlander on Jul 6, 2009 18:30:43 GMT -5
Indeed it is, Dick. Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70. Took the buck with 405 gr Remington factory stuff. Second whitetail I killed, following a button buck I thought was a doe. I was sitting under a tree freezing my tail off and gathering up my stuff to head back to the truck when I heard this rattling in the brush. I looked up and see this buck looking at me about 10 yards away. I don't recall getting the rifle up; I do recall the crosshairs centering on his chest. At the shot, or shortly before it, he wheeled and my shot grazed his hip. Imagine my disgust. The buck ran about 60 yards through the brush, but stopped to evaluate his situation with his neck showing through a hole, and that was it for him.
This was sometime before my love affair with the Ruger No. 1, which in fact has only gone on the last couple years.
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Post by Fowler on Jul 6, 2009 19:14:18 GMT -5
I still like the 454 buck the best for a pic, or the 454 elk....
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Post by Flatlander on Jul 6, 2009 19:45:20 GMT -5
What a lead-in 165 yards!
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Post by zeus on Jul 6, 2009 20:27:19 GMT -5
I like that drop tine on the 4570 buck but that is a nice one with the 454 Mark. I love seeing deer shot with sixguns myself.....GS
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Post by sixshot on Jul 6, 2009 21:51:38 GMT -5
Mark, both are very nice deer! Any buck with a handgun is exciting, it never gets old. Years ago when I was still doing the rifle thing I shot a huge buck in the Selway country of central Idaho, he didn't have a great rack but body wise he was clear off the charts. I shot him with a Ruger #1 45/70 using a 400 gr Speer slug, the shot was about 50 yds in heavy timber. That big old bullet didn't punch through, it was up against the hide on the off side, big as a 50 cent piece! Good thing I didn't try an elk with that bullet, found out they are very, very soft, I would have lost an elk for sure. Anyway, 2 nice deer, especially the one with the revolver. Dick
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