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Post by savit260 on Apr 3, 2011 12:51:56 GMT -5
If I could get my hands on one in this backwards state, I'd have it slicked up, and shoot the snot out of it.!!
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Post by CraigC on Apr 3, 2011 13:09:58 GMT -5
I can attest to the butter-on-glass slickness of a Bob Munden action job. I've handled several SAA's he tuned and own a 629MG he slicked up.
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Post by Frank V on Apr 3, 2011 14:57:52 GMT -5
I can attest to the butter-on-glass slickness of a Bob Munden action job. I've handled several SAA's he tuned and own a 629MG he slicked up. I can too! I have a Munden smoothed Colt & carry it a LOT. His action work is tops & to make it better he's only an hour drive from my house ( almost everything is an hour away from here), so I don't have to leave my nice six-gun at the mercy of fickle mail. Bob does a really nice job, when I need another action job Bob will do it too! Now back to what would I do with it? They were made to use, I use it. I don't baby it, but don't abuse it either. I carry it & shoot it a lot, when & if it needs help, I'll take it to see Bob. I won't worry about it in the meantime!!! Enjoy that Colt, the .357, though it doesn't get the play other calibers do, is a very useful cartridge. If you cast explore the Lyman 358156, it's a 155gr gas check bullet depending on your alloy. It's very accurate, & the gas check eliminates leading. It's a great all around bullet. Hope you enjoy that Colt. Remember it had ancestors at the Custer fight! There aren't a lot of guns that can claim that!!! Frank
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Post by jplower on Apr 6, 2011 17:01:04 GMT -5
You can do as you wish, but a dovetail sight will kill the value if you worry about that kind of thing. And, although slicked up actions from the mentioned individuals may feel great, I have seen at least 6 that blew up because the action spring was so light it didn't hold the bolt in place during a hard cocking. The cylinder threw by and was misalingned with the bore, allowing the hammer to catch the edge of the primer. The cylinder blew up and so did the top strap, all thanks to those light springs and bolt modifications, all done by those persons mentioned. If you don't care about safety, and are willing to risk it, get the light action, you can shoot like lightning, but make sure there is a very positive lock up during fast cycling, or you risk the cylinder jump and possible destruction. You don't hear much about these accidents, just the accolades for the gunsmiths.
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Post by Frank V on Apr 6, 2011 17:15:19 GMT -5
You can do as you wish, but a dovetail sight will kill the value if you worry about that kind of thing. And, although slicked up actions from the mentioned individuals may feel great, I have seen at least 6 that blew up because the action spring was so light it didn't hold the bolt in place during a hard cocking. The cylinder threw by and was misalingned with the bore, allowing the hammer to catch the edge of the primer. The cylinder blew up and so did the top strap, all thanks to those light springs and bolt modifications, all done by those persons mentioned. If you don't care about safety, and are willing to risk it, get the light action, you can shoot like lightning, but make sure there is a very positive lock up during fast cycling, or you risk the cylinder jump and possible destruction. You don't hear much about these accidents, just the accolades for the gunsmiths. What you say probably did happen or you wouldn't have said it. The first time I talked with Bob he explained that his basic action job wasn't intended for fast draw work & speed work such as is used in compitition. He asked me what I was going to use my gun for & told me his basic action job wasn't supposed to be used for real fast work. He showed me his Wife's gun with the coil springs & deepened locking bolt leads to facilitate the stress given a compitition gun. He told me straight out that if he used his basic action job for compitition he'd tear the gun apart, it wasn't designed for that. I've used my gun he tuned for several years now, & I can tell you it's just as slick & well timed as when it left his shop. I think someone misused the gun Bob tuned to get the blow-ups you describe. Bob's work is tops, & I'll continue to use his talents when I need another action job. Frank
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Post by brionic on Apr 6, 2011 17:54:32 GMT -5
jplower, welcome to the singleactions forum.
You may not recognize this but in your posts, all seven of them, you have made several negative comments about the work and products of other individuals and companies.
Perhaps you are qualified to make these assessments, but it shows poor form to announce your presence here by trying to discredit others.
Many of our members here are extremely knowledgeable and talented, and humble.
Again, welcome.
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Post by CraigC on Apr 7, 2011 12:33:23 GMT -5
You can do as you wish, but a dovetail sight will kill the value if you worry about that kind of thing. There's a very good article by Terry Weiland in the newest Rifle magazine about "value". Point being, we don't (or shouldn't) buy and modify guns for resale and monetary resale value is not the only "value" in anything. What is of greater "value" is as a shooter and a constant companion, the pleasure we obtain from its ownership and use. Who gives a rat's ass what it may or may not be worth to a stranger in 50yrs??? Only a fool denies himself the pleasure of such things because it 'may' detract from its resale value. That ain't living. It's greed for the sake of greed and pure stupidity. Whether or not that was your intent, you sir, are a troll and you are not speaking to a bunch of dummies that just fell off the turnip truck.
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Post by jplower on Apr 7, 2011 20:37:16 GMT -5
A man asked a question and was given a qualified opinion, if, as I said, he worries about that aspect. You butcher a Colt, it losses value as well as cosmetic appearance. Today's Colts are tomorrow's antiques and collectibles. Just consider, as Craig has said, what you want value to mean to you and act accordingly. But don't, as Criag has said, call a peron a troll just because you don't agree with him. My purpose here is to prevent accidents and injury with regard to action jobs by stating what I have observed over a 40 year period. Bob Mundun was right in stating his standard work is not meant for super fast shooting, but many persons don't realize that and will endanger themselves through improper functioning or additional alterations. If safety concerns are not also a constant in the search for shooting pleasure, and should be regarded as NUMBER ONE, forget everything else and hop back on the truck. Anyone who places business ahead of safety or makes claims that are not true about their products runs the risk of being discredited.
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Post by mec on Apr 8, 2011 16:24:57 GMT -5
According to the manual that comes with the new Colts, simply manipulating it reduces the collector's value and actually shooting it, reduces the value a Whole Lot. I recently did buy one an joyfully did load it and shoot it. Doing so, I found out that they are actually making these things imminently shootable. Timing is perfect. Sight regulation (at least on mine) is perfect and the bore is .452- making it accurate with either bullets of that diameter or the .454s that hornady puts out. So, a near-$1300 "investment" is now worth several hundred less and I Don't Care. Amazingly, while Colt has pissed off a hugh number of people in the industry it is one of the few companies which has neve pissed Me off. I plan to stay far enough away from their daily opperations to keep this the case.
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Post by Frank V on Apr 8, 2011 20:21:55 GMT -5
Mec, congratulations. I think that gun will bring you years of satisfaction. Of course you will further reduce it's value by shooting it at every opportunity I hope?? Frank
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Post by bigmuddy on Apr 8, 2011 20:37:18 GMT -5
My plan for my Colt SAA's is to shoot them until they are completely worthless....after I am dead. My sons will appreciate owning guns that their 'ol man put a lot of "background" on.
I also have one that Bob Munden did...WOW is it nice.
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Post by Frank V on Apr 9, 2011 12:33:56 GMT -5
Bob Mundun was right in stating his standard work is not meant for super fast shooting, but many persons don't realize that and will endanger themselves through improper functioning or additional alterations. I fail to see just how misuse of a firearm is a gunsmiths fault? Or why we should stop using a gunsmith because some have misused the guns he has worked on? Let's carry this one step farther. The Ruger is arguably the strongest factory SA yet some manage to damage them. Is this Rugers fault? I think not! Frank
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