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Post by jimmarch on Oct 9, 2010 15:22:45 GMT -5
No, I think ASM has been dead for a while now. Good riddance...they were the worst of the Italian makers. I really doubt AWA was ever buying ASMs...AWA isn't a bad importer/tuner house.
*Might* be Armi Chiappa. They're an up-and-coming Italian shop with a pretty decent reputation. And Pietta can make a good gun too.
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Post by Bear Claw Chris Lappe on Oct 9, 2010 18:02:23 GMT -5
No, I think ASM has been dead for a while now. Good riddance...they were the worst of the Italian makers. I really doubt AWA was ever buying ASMs...AWA isn't a bad importer/tuner house. Didn't AWA buy ASM in 2000?
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Post by jimmarch on Oct 9, 2010 19:23:15 GMT -5
Seriously? That'd be news to me. But...not impossible I guess? I did some google searching. Best I can make out, one company named "AWA" (American Western Arms) did indeed buy ASM circa 2000. But then that AWA died out! Another company is now doing biz under the same name, so God only knows if they're still using whatever was left of ASM back in Italy, or switched to Uberti, Pietta or .
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Post by Bear Claw Chris Lappe on Oct 9, 2010 19:51:17 GMT -5
Seriously? That'd be news to me. But...not impossible I guess? I did some google searching. Best I can make out, one company named "AWA" (American Western Arms) did indeed buy ASM circa 2000. But then that AWA died out! Another company is now doing biz under the same name, so God only knows if they're still using whatever was left of ASM back in Italy, or switched to Uberti, Pietta or . Geeze, are they trying to make this confusing!!!!
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Post by buck on Oct 10, 2010 6:04:12 GMT -5
I had a Chiappa .44 mag '92 rifle recently. The magazine would walk out jamming the gun. They would not send parts to Cabela's so they had to ship back to Italy. Months later it came back still the same. Cabela's gave me credit. Pretty rifle, awesome wood, but its a junker.
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Post by Lee Martin on Oct 11, 2010 8:06:52 GMT -5
As noted, Uberti quality control and consistency has greatly improved over that past decade. But don't write off their old models. While late 60's Dakotas were known for having problems, this Intercontinental Arms I recently picked-up is a tack-driver: It's the old Super Dakota model in 41 Magnum. Fit and finish are outstanding, the grips have lots of nice figure, and it groups. In fact, I have many 5 shot clusters under 1" off the bench @ 25 yards. -Lee www.singleactions.com
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Post by AxeHandle on Oct 11, 2010 8:22:49 GMT -5
Wasn't I told that what made the difference with the off the shelf Cimarron and the Uberti products was the fact that Cimmaron had a resident quality inspector in the Uberti manufacturing facility?
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Post by CraigC on Oct 11, 2010 9:33:28 GMT -5
Yep!
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Post by sixshooter on Oct 11, 2010 14:31:50 GMT -5
Can anyone list most or all of the companies that have imported Ubertis over the years?
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Post by Boge Quinn on Oct 11, 2010 16:01:59 GMT -5
As noted, Uberti quality control and consistency has greatly improved over that past decade. But don't write off their old models. While late 60's Dakotas were known for having problems, this Intercontinental Arms I recently picked-up is a tack-driver: It's the old Super Dakota model in 41 Magnum. Fit and finish are outstanding, the grips have lots of nice figure, and it groups. In fact, I have many 5 shot clusters under 1" off the bench @ 25 yards. -Lee www.singleactions.comLee, that's a NEAT-lookin' sixgun. Is the rear sight integral to the frame, or does it just look like it is? Boge
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Post by Lee Martin on Oct 12, 2010 7:27:12 GMT -5
Boge....the rear sight is cast as part of the frame (the rear is windage only). The front blade is pinned in the back and pivots up and down for elevation. A front set screw holds it in place once adjusted. -Lee www.singleactions.com
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Post by Boge Quinn on Oct 12, 2010 8:24:35 GMT -5
NEAT!
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Post by Bear Claw Chris Lappe on Oct 12, 2010 23:29:09 GMT -5
Quick question for those that have praised Cimarron Uberti's. Saw on another forum, someone say they have a transfer bar safety system?
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Post by jimmarch on Oct 13, 2010 3:27:58 GMT -5
Not a transfer bar. Some new Ubertis have a weird thing on the hammer that's hard to understand from the pics Uberti has published. It's some kind of half-rumped mutant hammer block...kinda. The general consensus is, it's good because it doesn't seem to screw up the trigger feel but bad in that it's not considered safe enough for six-up carry. If you want an Uberti with a real transfer bar and real six-up safety, you want a Beretta Stampede series...but the word among the SASS crowd is that the Berettas aren't holding up as well as the simpler Uberti action for high round counts (mainly shot fast with light ammo of course).
If you want a transfer-bar-equipped SA, get a Ruger - or if you can afford it, an FA97.
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Post by Bear Claw Chris Lappe on Oct 13, 2010 6:04:50 GMT -5
Thanks, I didn't want one on a Uberti, but thought it odd that someone thought Cimarrons had them, because the Stampede was the only Uberti product I had seen with one.
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