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Post by x101airborne on Sept 15, 2024 5:51:46 GMT -5
450-400 confused the hell outta me till a BPCR shooter set me down with some crayons. If I see a European designation weapon at the local gun store I go home and look it up before purchasing.
One can be a long time shooter buying ammo without knowing everything about a cartridge. I thought I had it sorted out till I came here and had my mind blown. Most of you guys know more than I ever thought was possible and I am still trying to learn more. My one brain cell just keeps running out of room.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Sept 15, 2024 9:00:30 GMT -5
The Brit’s are the ones that confused the heck out of me, with their measuring methods. I think it was finally highschool before I figured out that it was the second set of numbers in the name that was the actual bore size. Unlike us with 22-250, or 25-06,……..they went with 500/450 NE, or 400/350 Rigby with the second number set being bore size.
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Post by lee on Sept 16, 2024 10:54:05 GMT -5
Yeah, but 475 is a .45 caliber? C’mon…. If OP is for real he needs to be here. Yep...it's why I'm here. I really didn't know there are .47cal bullets for revolvers. My experience with SA/DA revolvers is limited to a few (4) cap and ball, 2 single sixes, and a few DA revolvers. I just finally got a RNM bisley, 44mag, a week ago, and set my reloading bench up this weekend, after having it all in storage last few years. I have alot to get reaquanted with, as I've only reloaded .38spl. There's us a wealth of knowledge here and I appreciate the responses. Well, most of em!! Thanks all.. |
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Post by marlin35 on Sept 16, 2024 11:19:33 GMT -5
Yeah, but 475 is a .45 caliber? C’mon…. If OP is for real he needs to be here. Yep...it's why I'm here. I really didn't know there are .47cal bullets for revolvers. My experience with SA/DA revolvers is limited to a few (4) cap and ball, 2 single sixes, and a few DA revolvers. I just finally got a RNM bisley, 44mag, a week ago, and set my reloading bench up this weekend, after having it all in storage last few years. I have alot to get reaquanted with, as I've only reloaded .38spl. There's us a wealth of knowledge here and I appreciate the responses. Well, most of em!! Thanks all.. Welcome! There is a lot to be learned here. I recommend using the search function or just simply clicking through the pages of threads and reading all that catch your eye. This place is truly a treasure trove of information. |
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Post by sharps4590 on Sept 16, 2024 11:24:15 GMT -5
The Brits place the parent cartridge first, most of the time. Like 450/400 mentioned by 101ab, the 450 Rigby is the parent case. THEN, there is the 450/400-3 1/4 inch and the 450/400-3 inch. The former is the old BPE and when the NE was introduced that long neck stuck in the chamber so, it was shortened. The long neck was needed for lube cookies and wads. Nitro eliminates their need. Several old BPE cartridges are that way. THEN, there is "#2" British cases. I can't think of one at the moment and I think that designates a shorter case than the parent.
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Post by bigbore5 on Sept 16, 2024 13:11:00 GMT -5
I gave up trying to figure out the Brits when I was in Africa. A client gifted me a 275 Rigby when he left after a very successful hunt. It sat in my gun rack for a few months due to a lack of ammo while I continued to use my old 7×57 Ruger. Dope!!
For the new guy, they're the same cartridge, just the Brits didn't like using the German name for it!
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Post by marcruger on Sept 18, 2024 13:04:06 GMT -5
I was blessed that my dad saved all of his gun magazine as I was growing up, and I read these voraciously. Guns, American Handgunner, Guns & Ammo from the '60s and '70s> I had the same question you did, "How do these things get named? Nuts!" My great uncle handed me a dog-eared copy of Cartridges of the World, and said for me to study and memorize it. That was great advice and still holds true today. Which is better, 275 Rigby or 7x57 Mauser? You can find the answer in there. God Bless, Marc
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Post by bigbore5 on Sept 18, 2024 14:14:12 GMT -5
I do kinda like the 275 Rigby name. Nostalgic and fancy sounding. But the rifle was built on a Mauser 98 action!
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Post by z1r on Sept 18, 2024 16:10:49 GMT -5
I was 12 when I realized Roy Weatherby upped the number for his own gratification 340, 378, 460. As to European designations 7.62x51 and 7.62x51R are not rimmed and rimless versions of each other. Yes there is confusion to new shooters however the OP did claim “long time shooter”, so I can understand Bushys thoughts as well. Trapr I like my Winchester '94 in 7.62x51R.  |
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Post by lar4570 on Sept 18, 2024 18:05:59 GMT -5
Yeah, but 475 is a .45 caliber? C’mon…. If OP is for real he needs to be here. Yep...it's why I'm here. I really didn't know there are .47cal bullets for revolvers. I just finally got a RNM bisley, 44mag, a week ago, and set my reloading bench up this weekend, after having it all in storage last few years. I have alot to get reaquanted with, as I've only reloaded .38spl. There's us a wealth of knowledge here and I appreciate the responses. Well, most of em!! Thanks all.. It is not a .47cal bullet, the bullet measures .475". There are two different 50 calibers in revolvers also. The 500JRH, 500S&W, 50AE, use a .500" bullet The 500 Linebaugh uses a .510" bullet. And that is as big as the law will let us go unless you happen across an antique that is not regulated by the CGA or NFA I have a double barrel pistol that uses .700" bullets, but it's over 180 years old, so the rules don't apply to it. When I started loading, my brother showed me the basics, then handed me a Speer manual and said to read it front to back, so I did. If you are for real, then welcome to the forum. Knowledge is free. I do not know everything on every subject, but I'm more than happy to share what I have learned. If you are here to just jerk someone's chain... Your time would be better spent elsewhere.  |
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Post by bigbore5 on Sept 18, 2024 19:45:59 GMT -5
I'd say the average experience of most members of this forum is probably 40yrs or so of shooting and tinkering. There's a vast pool of knowledge on these threads and far more in these gentlemen's heads.
Foolishness and trolls are not tolerated here, so some of the members can be standoffish at first, but as you show you are willing to both listen openly and share freely, you'll find that we're a sort of big dysfunctional family here.
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Post by marcruger on Nov 5, 2024 21:46:12 GMT -5
And remember that .480 Ruger was going to be .475 Ruger until the last minute. At least that is what I was told. At one point I had 200 cases marked “475 Ruger”. No revolver I had fit them, but I thought they were cool. Another sixgunner wanted them, so they found a new home. Best wishes, and God Bless, Marc
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