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Post by richard on Aug 13, 2024 16:48:55 GMT -5
I’ve wanted a .275 Rigby / 7x57 #1 for years! It just seems like a nice deer/plains game hunting combo. I found a .44 Mag #1 a few years ago that I didn’t know I needed. It’s a great little venison getter here in WV. edited to add- It looks like the 20” one in the post above  |
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Post by foxtrapper on Aug 13, 2024 17:31:50 GMT -5
Two out of the three cases are next to impossible to find…… We've seen shortages in all ammo and components. But, all but the 6.5 PRC are established cartridges. I'm curious which two you're referring to. Quick Look found the 6.5 prc available . Couldn’t find 22 hornet or the 275 rigby. |
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Post by Encore64 on Aug 13, 2024 17:44:19 GMT -5
Runs of 22 Hornet are available. Sure they sell out, but it's been with us since 1930. I don't believe it'll be a problem. Just buy plenty when it becomes available.
The 275 Rigby is the same cartridge as the 7x57 Mauser. It's been with us (and the rest of the world) for 132 years. Unlikely that it's going away anytime soon.
I bought the Ruger 77 African and #1 in 275 Rigby. A friend told me I'd messed up as there were no 275 Rigby Dies to be had.
He was right...
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Post by potatojudge on Aug 13, 2024 20:01:26 GMT -5
The 275 Rigby is a favorite of one of the higher ups at Lipseys. It's also been a top seller. I question the 6.5 PRC not having a longer barrel. Great move putting a 28" on the 257 Weatherby. The PRC deserves the same. Matter of perspective. You want a 32 inch barrel to maximize the PRC or a PRC to maximize the 22 inch barrel? Specialty pistols guys favor the latter. ELR guys favor the former. Just perspective. |
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Post by Encore64 on Aug 13, 2024 20:11:57 GMT -5
Most definitely. But, overbore cartridges need barrel length.
The lack of barrel length doomed the 264 Winchester.
It'll show up even quicker today in the age of the affordable chronograph.
J.D.Jones preached efficient cartridges for their barrel length. He was correct then and now.
It'll be interesting to see the chronograph results of these guns. But, feel they should have taken a cue from Weatherby. A company with lots of experience in overbore cartridges.
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Post by potatojudge on Aug 14, 2024 15:27:21 GMT -5
Most definitely. But, overbore cartridges need barrel length. The lack of barrel length doomed the 264 Winchester. It'll show up even quicker today in the age of the affordable chronograph. J.D.Jones preached efficient cartridges for their barrel length. He was correct then and now. It'll be interesting to see the chronograph results of these guns. But, feel they should have taken a cue from Weatherby. A company with lots of experience in overbore cartridges. I think we're agreeing. The relationship between overbore, barrel length, and efficiency is a balancing act. It's not intuitive how going from a 10 to a 14 inch barrel changes the 30-30 experience so much, but it does, hence the 30 Herrett. I guess my point is, if someone hands me a 28 inch 6.5 PRC I'll appreciate the ballistics and if they hand me a 22 inch 6.5 PRC I'll appreciate what it can do in a rifle that feels more handy. It's still more gun than a 6.5 CM in an equivalent. Extra performance is never free, wether it's more powder or reduced barrel life or more blast and recoil. I think the 7 PRC would have been a better choice, but I also understand 6.5mm is the hot bore right now. I also think moving the front sight back 3/4 of an inch and threading the barrel like a Mauser 66 would expand the appeal since so many hunt with suppressors now. Not to knock the old Weatherby magnums, but it seems like there's a lot of those in the back of safes and not many in the field. |
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Post by Encore64 on Aug 14, 2024 18:05:59 GMT -5
Of course!!! We all understand everything is a trade off.
It's never "disagreeing" when we post different viewpoints. It's simply offering a 3D Perspective instead of 2D.
The famed belt most definitely is taking a back seat these days. It was never needed, but was the rage of the age because shooters were convinced they did.
It works just fine. But, once the market is saturated, gun writers (Incognito Gun Sellers) are tasked with convincing shooters they need something different.
We go thru stages of being pimped. Remember when the 307 Winchester would render the 30-30 as history? How about the 308 Marlin? What did Ruger bring back out? The old 30-30!!! Same story on the 45-70 vs the 444 and 450 Marlins. What's in Ruger's Lineup? Yep, the ancient 45-70!!!
So Belted, Rimless, Rimmed or Rebated Rim, it comes down to the shooter...NOT THE GUN.
The extreme success of the 6.5 Creedmoor has brought on an onslaught from those vindictive of it's success.
But, successful it has been and continues to thrive.
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