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Post by paul105 on May 15, 2024 11:48:10 GMT -5
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Post by awp101 on May 15, 2024 12:22:53 GMT -5
I've come up with the hypothesis that MOST Charter buyers buy them, shoot a few cylinders-full and then stuff them in the sock-drawer or glove-box and pretty much forget about them. I’ve always gotten the impression Charter Arms has a “carry a lot, shoot a little” reputation. Especially given the up and down QC and much multiple ownership groups (IIRC) across the decades. Is this accurate and does it still hold true? |
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Post by jeffh on May 15, 2024 16:14:57 GMT -5
<abbr>...</abbr>“carry a lot, shoot a little” ... Is this accurate and does it still hold true?
"Accurate" and "true" about the majority of Charter owners, but I don't believe it is nearly as applicable or appropriate to the GUNS themselves as the owners of them. I've had several over the years and I never shied away from getting them out and using them as much as any other brand of gun I owned.
As far as users "carrying a lot, shooting a little," two groups come to mind; the ones who buy the least expensive gun they can find just to HAVE a gun (just in case) and then stow it in a sock-drawer or glove-box, maybe even carry it, and the other group probably has more Bulldog owners who find them too painful to shoot, so simply don't shoot it that much.
When I shot and carried the Bulldogs, shooting a box of fifty was about enough, but I'd shot more on occasion. I shot much more frequently too then, so it's not like I was afraid of wearing one out. Maybe a box of fifty in a session fits into "shot a little?"
Honestly, I think it's just a cute quip some folks pop off with as an indicator of their worldly wisdom, because they've HEARD it before and, hey, it just makes sense. How could a gun half the price of the one I just bought be any good?
The only more irritating quip I hear every time Charters come up is something about it being a particular serial-killer's favored weapon.
EDIT: And now that Smith and Ruger are copying cost and weight-saving innovations used by Charter since 1964, there's a whole lot of really light-weight revolvers which most people don't find particularly pleasant to shoot for hours on end. In THAT context, the "carry a lot/shoot a little" thing holds true for all of them.
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Post by reflex264 on May 16, 2024 10:30:54 GMT -5
I find it interesting how Charter Arms guns are perceived. I handgun hunt a lot. I generally carry a scoped gun out with a oepn sighted gun togther. If I have close shots, say 30 yards I will often use the open sighted guns. Sometimes that gun happens to be one of the Charters. I have never felt like they were cheap, inadequate or unreliable even after putting a lot of shots through them. One of my older target bulldogs has thousands of shots through it. As for the 5" Target Bulldog, if deer get close I kill them with it. No mystery. Great little woods bumming gun.  |
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Post by jeffh on May 16, 2024 11:43:35 GMT -5
I find it interesting how Charter Arms guns are perceived...
I gotta tell ya, man, as a devoted Charter fan, every time I see those pics or read about your Charter exploits, you're hitting hero-status for me.
It also makes me wish I'd not taken them for granted for so long, and let them go, thinking they'd be easy to replace. Some of the one I let get away, I do wish I had back.
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Post by parallaxbill on May 16, 2024 12:55:28 GMT -5
I like the old factory Walnut grips and have changed the grips on several of mine to that grip. Here is one of the 5" Target Bulldogs with the factory Target grips.  I'd love to find one like this to go with my Bulldog Pug. That's a nice looking revolver! |
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Post by reflex264 on May 16, 2024 16:26:06 GMT -5
I like the old factory Walnut grips and have changed the grips on several of mine to that grip. Here is one of the 5" Target Bulldogs with the factory Target grips. I'd love to find one like this to go with my Bulldog Pug. That's a nice looking revolver! Thanks. It is accurate as well. 240 grain SWC at a bit over 800 fps just work within reasonable ranges. |
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Post by reflex264 on May 16, 2024 16:32:37 GMT -5
Charter Arms guns are notorious for having a rough hammer slot in the frame. If you pull it apart you will see witness marks on the sides of the frame. Stoning this area drastically improves the double action trigger and speeds up the locktime on the single action. Here is a picture I did as a tutorial showing what I am talking about.  |
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Post by jeffh on May 16, 2024 17:22:48 GMT -5
Charter Arms guns are notorious for having a rough hammer slot in the frame....
I usually also put shims on each side of the hammer, which isn't as easy as a sideplate design, but doable and worthwhile.
SOMETIMES, it's necessary to add a shim between the grip frame and cylinder frame to keep the rear screw from pinching the sides of the frame against the hammer. This has only come about in the most recent years, but I've had to do it twice.
Easy fixes when required, but not always required.
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