FUNN'in WITH DA 45 COLTS

[45MAN]

MY 2023-2024 HUNTING SEASON ENDED YESTERDAY SO TODAY (3/1/24) I WAS BACK AT MY RANGE ON THE RIO GRANDE, SHOOTING MY BOWEN BEAST 5 SHOT 45 COLT REDHAWK AND A MODEL 25-5 S&W WITH A PROPERLY CHAMBERED CYLINDER (FROM A 44 MAG) + ACTION WORK BY JRH. FOR THE BEAST I AM TRYING TO WORK UP A LOAD WITH 13grs OF HS-6 AND A 325gr SLAMMER BY MISSOURI BULLET COMPANY. THE 25-5 WAS FED MY S&W LOAD (NICKLED STARLINE BRASS, WLP PRIMERS, 10.5grs OF UNIQUE AND A 250gr PC'ed RNFP), WHICH IT SHOT VERY ACCURATELY AT 25 YARDS, GUESSTIMATING A MV OF AROUND 1,200fps BASED UPON MV's IN SHORTER BARRELED SMITHS. MID 50's AND ABOUT A 10mph NORTH WIND. ALWAYS NICE TO GET OUTDOORS.

[paleroadster]

I'm not often enthusiastic about stag grips, but those on your 25 look fantastic.

[marlin35]

My only gripe about my mountain gun, is the round butt. Stags on a square butt are a match made in heaven.

[ridenshoot]

Mar 1, 2024 15:17:58 GMT -5 paleroadster said:

I'm not often enthusiastic about stag grips, but those on your 25 look fantastic.

I agree!  Would like to find a set of grips like that for my 25-15.

[marlin35]

I decided to join you!

[45MAN]

I HAD A MASSIVE SET OF SAMBAR STAG, WITH A TYLET GRIP ADAPTER, ON THE REDHAWK BUT DECIDED TO TURN IT INTO A WORKHORSE vs A SHOWHORSE. SHOT IT FIRST WITH SOME PACHMAYR GRIPPERS BUT MY REMEMBRANCE WAS CORRECT, THEY ARE TOO NARROW FOR ME AND UNCOMFORTABLE TO SHOOT WITH. SO ON CAME THE PACHMAYR PRESENTATION GRIPS, PERFECT FOR ME.

THE 25-5 WEARS A 1 SET OF MANY SETS OF ELK STAG GRIPS I HAVE FROM KEN DRISKILL (WISH I HAD MORE).

HOPE TO HIT THE RANGE IN THE MORNING AGAIN. THE 13grs OF HS-6 LOAD SHOT BETTER WITH FED 150 PRIMERS THAN WITH CCI 300 PRIMERS USING WINCHESTER CASES, CRIMPED WITH A LEE FC(CARBIDE) DIE AND THEN CRIMPED AGAIN WITH A REDDING PC DIE. LOADED UP SOME MORE BUT USING STAR LINE BRASS AND THE 150's. GONNA TRY SOME JUST WITH THE LEE FC DIE AND SOME WITH THE LEE FC DIE/THE REDDING PC DIE.

HOPING TO DEVELOP A MODERATE LOAD FOR UP CLOSE SERIOUS BACK UP/DEFENSE SITUATIONS THAT IS "controllable" AND ALLOWS QUICK FOLLOW-UPS.

[revolvercranker]

Mar 1, 2024 17:53:13 GMT -5 45MAN said:

I HAD A MASSIVE SET OF SAMBAR STAG, WITH A TYLET GRIP ADAPTER, ON THE REDHAWK BUT DECIDED TO TURN IT INTO A WORKHORSE vs A SHOWHORSE. SHOT IT FIRST WITH SOME PACHMAYR GRIPPERS BUT MY REMEMBRANCE WAS CORRECT, THEY ARE TOO NARROW FOR ME AND UNCOMFORTABLE TO SHOOT WITH. SO ON CAME THE PACHMAYR PRESENTATION GRIPS, PERFECT FOR ME.

THE 25-5 WEARS A 1 SET OF MANY SETS OF ELK STAG GRIPS I HAVE FROM KEN DRISKILL (WISH I HAD MORE).

HOPE TO HIT THE RANGE IN THE MORNING AGAIN. THE 13grs OF HS-6 LOAD SHOT BETTER WITH FED 150 PRIMERS THAN WITH CCI 300 PRIMERS USING WINCHESTER CASES, CRIMPED WITH A LEE FC(CARBIDE) DIE AND THEN CRIMPED AGAIN WITH A REDDING PC DIE. LOADED UP SOME MORE BUT USING STAR LINE BRASS AND THE 150's. GONNA TRY SOME JUST WITH THE LEE FC DIE AND SOME WITH THE LEE FC DIE/THE REDDING PC DIE.

HOPING TO DEVELOP A MODERATE LOAD FOR UP CLOSE SERIOUS BACK UP/DEFENSE SITUATIONS THAT IS "controllable" AND ALLOWS QUICK FOLLOW-UPS.


Well my serious back-up/defense situations I use my Colt Gold Cup Combat Commander 45acp (yes you hears that right, a Gold Cup Combat Commander and it's tuned with a fitted barrel too) with the Speer 250 grain swages SWC! I functions reliably with that bullet and feeds like a champ. It's funny when I lived in Tulsa ran into a Tulsa detective in the gunstore looking for those same Speer bullets. Got to talking to him on his application for them. Turns out he was using them in the plain jane Colt either Combat Commander or the aluminum frame Commader for his duty gun on breaking into rooms.  Yup he knew his business. I didn't get the idea from him. 

[45MAN]

I GOT A REDDING PROFILE CRIMP DIE TO HELP WITH SOME FITMENT ISSUES IN A VERY TIGHTLY CHAMBERED GEN I ANACONDA (RECHAMBER FROM A 44 MAG CYLINDER). ALSO HELPED ELIMINATE THE OCCASSIONAL HARD SEATER IN THE BOWEN BEAST. AFTER SHOOTING PLENTY WITH AND WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL PCD LOOKS LIKE WITH THE ADDITIONAL PCD STEP IT IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO ACCURACY AND MAY EVEN HELP SOME. HAVE ALSO LEARNED THAT 13grs OF HS-6 WITH THAT SLAMMER BULLET IN THE 5 SHOT REDHAWK IS NOT THE ANSWER (DISAPPOINTING ACCURACY). MAY TRY 12.5grs AND/OR 13.5grs OF HS-6 AND/OR 21grs OF VV-N110. I HAVE PLENTY OF HS-6 AND AM HOPING TO FIND A 45 COLT USE FOR IT BUT SOMEWHERE AROUND 21grs OF THE N110 SHOULD BE THE "sweet spot" FOR THAT BULLET, ALTHOUGH PROBABLY MORE KICK THAN I AM LOOKING FOR.

[bigbrowndog]

Rey, try some Unique if you have some, I had good luck with loads around 9-10gr. and 300gr jacketed bullets, velocities were in the 1000fps range.

Trapr

[45MAN]

Mar 2, 2024 19:05:10 GMT -5 bigbrowndog said:

Rey, try some Unique if you have some, I had good luck with loads around 9-10gr. and 300gr jacketed bullets, velocities were in the 1000fps range.

Trapr

HAVE GIVEN THOUGHT TO IT, WAS THINKING THE 5 SHOT BOWEN BEAST COULD EASILY HANDLE 10grs OF UNIQUE AND THE 325gr SLAMMER. HAVE DECIDED TO TRY 12.5 AND 13.5grs OF HS-6 BEFORE LOOKING ELSEWHERE.

[bigbrowndog]

Also I got 1200fps from a 5.5” barrel and 22gr. of H110 with a 340gr. Cast, it is a Ruger only load but accurate from my Bisley. I’d think from your 3+ inch Beast it might make 1000-1100fps, or maybe even try 20-21grains.

Trapr

[45MAN]

ENDED UP TRyING 12.6grs AND 13.4grs OF HS-6, FED 150's, STARLINE CASES AND THE 325gr MBC PC'ed SLAMMER BULLET, IN THE 5 SHOT BOWEN BEAST 45 COLT. ALSO TRIED 10.5grs OF UNIQUE WITH WLP PRIMERS. THE 13.4grs OF HS-6 LOAD SHOT THE BEST AND HAS CONSISTENT 3 SHOT 1" POTENTIAL AT 25 YARDS (IF I CAN DO MY PART). SO I LOADED UP 30 ROUNDS WITH 13.4grs OF HS-6 AND HEADED TO MY RANGE ON THE RIO GRANDE THIS MORNING (3/7/24). UPPER 70's AND VERY WINDY (15mph PLUS). TOO WINDY TO SHOOT PAPER SO I SHOT AT IRON @ 25 YARDS AND GOT THE BOWEN SIGHTED IN. ALSO HAD MY BRAND NEW/JUST GOT IT GARMIN XERO C1 WITH ME (WOW WHAT A CHRONO). 3 SHOT AVERAGE FOR THE HS-6 LOAD WAS 1,030fps WITH AN EXTREME SPREAD OF 20fps. NOT BAD OUT OF A 4.2" BARREL WITH ONLY ABOUT 3" OF RIFLING, THE REST BEING A VENTED EXPANSION CHAMBER. WILL LOAD UP A BUNCH MORE OF THIS 13.4grs OF HS-6 LOAD.

ALSO CHRONOED THE 8 3/8ths JRH 25-5 WITH MY S&W LOAD (NICKELED STARLINE BRASS, WLP PRIMER, 10.5grs OF UNIQUE AND A 250gr RNFP PC'ed CAST BULLET) AND GOT A 3 SHOT AVERAGE OF 1,140fps, NOT THE 1,200fps I GUESSTIMATED BUT AN ACCURATE AND POTENT LOAD NONETHELESS.

[45MAN]

WENT TO MY RANGE ON THE RIO GRANDE THIS MORNING (3/10/24) AND SHOT THE BOWEN 5 SHOT 45 COLT BEAST, WITH THE 13.4grs OF HS-6 LOAD, OFF HAND AT STEEL @ 25 YARDS. FEEL LIKE I GOT THE ROUGH COUNTRY REAR SIGHT PRETTY WELL DIALED IN. I AM HAPPY WITH HOW THE GUN SHOOTS WITH THAT LOAD AND AM GOING TO LOAD UP AROUND A 100 BEFORE I SWITCH OVER TO LOADING UP SOME S&W 45 COLT LOADS AND THEN SOME RUGER EVERYDAY LOADS.

[AxeHandle]

Stag gris for a N frame S&W? Beware LSCG!

[abarxxmanfan]

Spegel’s on a Mountain Gun in 45 Colt