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Post by boatswainsmate on Feb 14, 2024 18:23:46 GMT -5
Hello all, I got this lee mold on the cheap at a local gun show and was wondering if anyone had load information for it. It's a .358 75gr Wadcutter. In my research I've found 2 of these bullets were loaded into 38 special cases with a small charge of powder. I was able to find a charge weight for 1 bullet but not 2. Thanks for any information. Boats
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 14, 2024 19:28:25 GMT -5
I know someone who loads two into a 357 brass and uses target 148 wadcutter data. I don't get his reasoning that it's going to be a better self-defense load though. The accuracy is horrible and there's a high chance of one of the slugs missing and hitting somebody it's not supposed to. Plus the low velocity and mass would limit penetration. I guess at a few feet it wouldn't matter much.
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Post by bushog on Feb 14, 2024 19:33:53 GMT -5
A two-fer....
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Post by bula on Feb 15, 2024 8:48:05 GMT -5
A one fer.. put shot under it. A buck-n-ball loading. Admit uses for that, kinda slim too, but fun thing to try. I've done it with Matt's Bullets 135gr 44 "button" bullet.
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Post by hunter01 on Feb 15, 2024 9:05:20 GMT -5
Id try 3 in a 357 case myself if they will fit and allow 850fps or more. I dont see anyone just shrugging that off. You would have to be careful in its use sure, but i could see it being effective in the house where you dont want it going through several walls and hitting someone else. I doubt many of us will find ourselfs in a movie type hostage situation where you need pinpoint accuracy to save the wife and keep her unscathed. Anyway, if she did happen to get scratched by one of the little guys, it would be a constant reminder that you are willing to do whatever it takes!😂
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Post by bula on Feb 15, 2024 9:09:33 GMT -5
Guy logic seldom matches gal logic..just sayin'.
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Post by hgunhtr on Feb 15, 2024 10:33:15 GMT -5
Chuck, im going to tell you that is you even think about creasing the missus with anything that looks like a bullet you will be meeting Jesus quickly and most likely painfully. Nurses know how to kill you slow and painful and where you live, NOBODY will hear you scream. We had an indoor league years ago and we had a bullseye shooter running them. tremendous accuracy from his model 19. Seriously, dont discount the accuracy of the little bullet till you try it. 2-2.5 grains of bullseye in a 38 special case will get you a starting point and work from there. put one of those in a BG's T box at close range and it will change his mind. I wouldnt pick that bullet for self defense but if it was what was loaded in the cylinder at the time, just go to work with it.
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Post by gnappi on Feb 15, 2024 11:05:08 GMT -5
Loading 2? I'd be concerned that the one in the rear could get stuck in the barrel if the charge is insufficient? You'd not know it if the first one hit paper or a soda can.
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 15, 2024 11:40:43 GMT -5
Reckon “accuracy” & penetration from two or three half-pint wadcutters per round of .38 Special brings on the buckshot factor. At its most optimistic, an arm’s length proposition. For those who know to use their sights, including a flash sight picture where we’re not even sure our sights came to eye, precise shot placement cannot be assured, and the farther the reach, the greater the spread. This eliminates many self-defense potentials, especially when it come to protecting others.
Before carrying a stack of wafers in place of a bullet, I would try two tests: 1) Cardboard silhouettes placed from 1 to 50 feet. Corrugated cardboard is better than paperer printing a picture of bullet stability. Do the slugs separate? If so, at what distance? 2) Penetration through a row of water-filled gallon jugs. David Bradshaw
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Post by bigbrowndog on Feb 15, 2024 11:52:32 GMT -5
For a light recoiling bunny or squirrel load they look like they’d be great.
Trapr
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Post by bigbrowndog on Feb 15, 2024 14:33:57 GMT -5
Or for grouse and ptarmigan while in a big game hunt. Either way I’d find a use for them.
Trapr
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Post by hunter01 on Feb 15, 2024 14:48:46 GMT -5
Or for grouse and ptarmigan while in a big game hunt. Either way I’d find a use for them. Trapr The OP said he bought it for a song. Im a sucker for a bargain so ill find a use for darn near anything if the price is right!
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 15, 2024 17:27:24 GMT -5
I've got a button collar wadcutter mold for the 475. I think they're about 180grs. Three of those in the Linebaughs would be interesting. Gotta try that after work slows down.
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Post by sharps4590 on Feb 16, 2024 7:34:39 GMT -5
It's nothing new. As kid I remember reading about 2 round balls loaded in a cartridge and that was in either the 50's or 60's and dated back to the 1920's at least. If the first projectile comes out, the second one is too. The pressure and powder gases are behind the rear projectile, not between the two.
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 16, 2024 21:39:02 GMT -5
One of those out of a 38 could reach a good velocity, hit pretty hard, but still not over penetrate. If they're hallway length accurate and could be moving @1100fps, I think it'll make a good home defense round with a single bullet.
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