Punch bullets information needed.

[sixshot]

I believe in penetration tests that Kelye's bullets were outperforming just about everything out there.

Dick

[zeus]

Feb 3, 2024 16:59:33 GMT -5 sixshot said:

I believe in penetration tests that Kelye's bullets were outperforming just about everything out there.

Dick

I remember reading Seyfried long ago talking about the other nose type not penetrating straight. I’ve never shot a deer wide enough to matter so I wouldn’t know one way or the other 🤣

[cas]

If I ever find them again I'll take some photos with a modern camera. lol

[sixshot]

If there's a better nose profile out there than that one I've never seen it. I believe Rey Garza mentions shooting an elephant with a bullet where they had changed the nose profile from his previous trip & the bullet didn't work out because the nose was too wide. You can have too much of a good thing.

Dick

[bearskinner]

The best thing about creating punch bullets, would definitely be HEAVIER than mono metal bullets, especially on very large animals. I would like to see 475’s at 400, 500’s at 450 and .510’s at 450 and 520 for revolver use. (At least) as your probably going to be danger close.
Those would be good in long guns too. I was just questioning a friend with a big fancy machine shop about making similar to these last week!

[bigbrowndog]

Like Dicks comment of too much of a good thing, I think any .510 caliber bullet weighing more than 500gr would be too long. Considering it’s not made of 100% lead, probably not even 50% lead the extra length needed to make that weight would be too long. If you took the overall length of a lead 520-530gr and made a bronze/lead bullet that length then maybe you’d have something. I’d bet the weight would be close to a lead 465-475gr bullet.

Trapr

[bearskinner]

No problem fitting in a MAXI or 50 Alaskan though

[eagle1899]

Was there a proven reason for the knurling? Did it help with bullet pull?

[bigbrowndog]

Feb 3, 2024 18:16:42 GMT -5 bearskinner said:

No problem fitting in a MAXI or 50 Alaskan though

It’s not the fitting in a cylinder but the base encroachment on powder capacity that I think would be the issue. At some point you reach diminishing returns. Rifles are a different topic altogether.
And how many 500Max owners are there really, that would need a bullet like that?
Trapr

[kelye]

Later bullets didn't have knurling, a relief groove was placed between 2 driving bands. I made some bullets for the 475 Linebaugh #1 rifles, had a lot of bullet hanging out of the case to increase powder capacity. Did the same for a Ruger #1 in 50 Alaskan.

[sixshot]

I believe the knurling was actually to reduce pressure, might be wrong.

Dick

[cas]

Ooh that means I have the Old Model ones, worth even more.



I felt guilty never shooting them, but that was the same reason I never shot them, I would have felt guilty just wasting them on paper targets or whacking a tree stump or what not.



My photo host shows I uploaded that photo March 11, 2004. Twenty years ago, good lord.

[45MAN]

A SLIGHT HI-JACK, BUT I NEED TO COUNT MY REMAINING SUPPLY OF 45 COLT/454 PUNCH BULLETS AND OFFER 'em UP FOR SALE.

ALSO I HAVE SOME OF THE ORIGINAL 45 PUNCH BULLETS AND I WILL TRY TO POST A PICTURE OF THE ORIGINALS (circa 2005) AND THE ONES I GOT IN 2009.

[45MAN]

Feb 3, 2024 18:45:39 GMT -5 eagle1899 said:

Was there a proven reason for the knurling? Did it help with bullet pull?

A SLIGHT HI-JACK, BUT I NEED TO COUNT MY REMAINING SUPPLY OF 45 COLT/454 PUNCH BULLETS AND OFFER 'em UP FOR SALE.

ALSO I HAVE SOME OF THE ORIGINAL 45 PUNCH BULLETS AND I WILL TRY TO POST A PICTURE OF THE ORIGINALS (circa 2005) AND THE ONES I GOT IN 2009.

THE KNURLING WAS THE ORIGINAL ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE BULLET TO GO THRU THE BARREL, ADDRESSED BY KELEYE IN A SUBSEQUENT POST.

[James]

Grizzly Ammo bought the Punch bullet manufacture from Kyle awhile ago and they no longer sell the loaded ammo. Sent them an email and they never answered.. Used their 500 Wyoming Express Punch load in Africa for Cape buff and had complete penetration from all five rounds....The best penetrating handgun bullet made......