Asking for options.Should I sale a GP100 to get a King Cobra

[45MAN]

Jul 18, 2023 21:56:38 GMT -5 hounddogman said:

Jul 18, 2023 6:38:53 GMT -5 45MAN said:

I REALLY LIKE THE MISSOURI 180gr PC'ed PUGNOSE.

Can I ask you for your load data for this bullet ? So far my use with it has been with H110 in a marlin. 

IIRC, I USE N-110, WILL LOOK UP THE COMPLETE RECIPE THIS EVENING, PLUS ANY CHRONO DATA I MAY HAVE.

[tj3006]

I assume you use a ships anchor chains as suspenders?
I at 64 don't have enough butt to hold my pants up for long with much of anything on my belt. As soon as the weather cools down, enough I switch to a shoulder holster....tj

[45MAN]

Jul 18, 2023 21:56:38 GMT -5 hounddogman said:

Jul 18, 2023 6:38:53 GMT -5 45MAN said:

I REALLY LIKE THE MISSOURI 180gr PC'ed PUGNOSE.

Can I ask you for your load data for this bullet ? So far my use with it has been with H110 in a marlin. 

FROM BACK IN APRIL OF 2020 HERE IS MY 180gr PC'ed PUGNOSE LOAD: IMI CASES, WSPM PRIMERS, AND 13.2grs OF VV-N110, CHONO'ed 1,276fps IN A 6" S&W 27-2.

[jeffh]

3" is my preferred revolver barrel length for a general purpose 357 DA. Anything over or under, I don't even look at.

That Colt caught my eye too and I've heard nothing but good about them so far. For as much as I'd shoot one, the durability comparison with the GP would be a moot point. The GP became so overbuilt in the name of saving machining costs, that it's just too heavy and bulky for me, but they do seem to be well-loved. If I had a GP though, it'd be trade fodder anyway, so "likes" become a moot point as well - for me.

My dilemma would be an older 3" SP101, or the 3" Colt.

I would not NEED the perceived durability of the Ruger over the Colt, to be realistic and honest.

I would not NEED the really, really nice trigger on the Colt, as I can make an SP101's triggers very good - as good as I need or want.

The modular field-strip feature of the Ruger is really only needed when you first buy the gun and have to work on it, reassemble, try it, disassemble, work on it,try it... After that, how often does one NEED to disassemble a revolver to that level?

The Colt has an extra round of capacity.

The Ruger is significantly lest expensive than the Colt.

I would HOPE that at the price of the Colt that it comes out of the box needing ZERO repairs, corrections or tweaks - a crap-shoot with Ruger. Actually, for the price of a new Ruger, THEY should be "right" right out of the box too, but one never knows.

Since the end of last year, I've been watching for Rossi's new 3", six-shot 357, which retains several features Taurus tossed out. Yes, Taurus makes them, but they're making them to a slightly different standard than their own guns and they cost a tad more, but I've not seen them for sale below retail, so I've waited. Yes, it's likely to be a little over half of what a new SP101 is and a little over a third of what a new Colt is, but I like the S$W features Rossi kept and they DO have nice triggers because of those features. Not crazy about Rossi customer service though, so maybe I will stick with my Charter Arms, 3", 5-shot 357.

I think I just went in a circle.

The Colt looks wonderful though. Given the choice between it and a GP, the Colt would win decisively, based on personal preferences alone.

[StanleyWhite]

I suspect the Ruger has more kitchen-table-gunsmith potential than the Colt does.

-Stan

[Stump Buster]

Jul 18, 2023 21:52:32 GMT -5 tj3006 said:

Wait for the 3 inch !
..I would be all over one of those if I did not have a 3 inch Model 66....tj

Braggart!




hounddogman... sounds like you have some good advice, so congrat's on whichever one you get and congrat's to your pops for already grabbing the 3".

[hounddogman]

Jul 21, 2023 13:54:24 GMT -5 45MAN said:

Jul 18, 2023 21:56:38 GMT -5 hounddogman said:

Can I ask you for your load data for this bullet ? So far my use with it has been with H110 in a marlin. 

FROM BACK IN APRIL OF 2020 HERE IS MY 180gr PC'ed PUGNOSE LOAD: IMI CASES, WSPM PRIMERS, AND 13.2grs OF VV-N110, CHONO'ed 1,276fps IN A 6" S&W 27-2.

Thank you.  I'm curious to see what I can get out of a short barrel. 

[45MAN]

"RULE OF THUMB" ONLY, ADD OR SUSTRACT 35fps PER INCH

[hounddogman]

Jul 21, 2023 14:48:01 GMT -5 jeffh said:

3" is my preferred revolver barrel length for a general purpose 357 DA. Anything over or under, I don't even look at.

That Colt caught my eye too and I've heard nothing but good about them so far. For as much as I'd shoot one, the durability comparison with the GP would be a moot point. The GP became so overbuilt in the name of saving machining costs, that it's just too heavy and bulky for me, but they do seem to be well-loved. If I had a GP though, it'd be trade fodder anyway, so "likes" become a moot point as well - for me.

My dilemma would be an older 3" SP101, or the 3" Colt.

I would not NEED the perceived durability of the Ruger over the Colt, to be realistic and honest.

I would not NEED the really, really nice trigger on the Colt, as I can make an SP101's triggers very good - as good as I need or want.

The modular field-strip feature of the Ruger is really only needed when you first buy the gun and have to work on it, reassemble, try it, disassemble, work on it,try it... After that, how often does one NEED to disassemble a revolver to that level?

The Colt has an extra round of capacity.

The Ruger is significantly lest expensive than the Colt.

I would HOPE that at the price of the Colt that it comes out of the box needing ZERO repairs, corrections or tweaks - a crap-shoot with Ruger. Actually, for the price of a new Ruger, THEY should be "right" right out of the box too, but one never knows.

Since the end of last year, I've been watching for Rossi's new 3", six-shot 357, which retains several features Taurus tossed out. Yes, Taurus makes them, but they're making them to a slightly different standard than their own guns and they cost a tad more, but I've not seen them for sale below retail, so I've waited. Yes, it's likely to be a little over half of what a new SP101 is and a little over a third of what a new Colt is, but I like the S$W features Rossi kept and they DO have nice triggers because of those features. Not crazy about Rossi customer service though, so maybe I will stick with my Charter Arms, 3", 5-shot 357.

I think I just went in a circle.

The Colt looks wonderful though. Given the choice between it and a GP, the Colt would win decisively, based on personal preferences alone.

I agree with most of what you're saying.  I have a sp101 that's not going anywhere so the only real advantage of the colt is one more round. But I do actually shoot  my short revolvers.  Probably about 2000 rounds of 38-44 to 357 loads in 2 years through the gp100. The large frame gun is easy to shoot but this one has a couple of little things I don't like ,it has the short flutes on the cylinder and on the face of the cylinder each chamber is " crowned " . So I will be trading it for something different. I too have been waiting to see a new rossi.