rufus
.30 Stingray
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Post by rufus on Jun 14, 2023 20:10:28 GMT -5
Wondering if the gun shop will send it back to S&W ??
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 14, 2023 20:12:26 GMT -5
Wondering if the gun shop will send it back to S&W ?? They were checking with the distributor to see what procedure to use. Back to distributor or S&W... |
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 14, 2023 20:14:40 GMT -5
Not sure what Huey is talking about - it looks fine to me:  ***** These chamber ridges are to headspace brass trimmed to arbitrary lengths for the kitchen table experimenter. Note that no two chambers appear the same. This allows multiple different case lengths for each chamber. The ,manufacturer forgot to number case length options for each chamber. Is that a chamfer at the root of the forcing cone? David Bradshaw The Focing Cone most certainly appears to be chamfered almost to the point of being crowned... |
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Post by longoval on Jun 14, 2023 20:36:04 GMT -5
These chamber ridges are to headspace brass trimmed to arbitrary lengths for the kitchen table experimenter. Note that no two chambers appear the same. This allows multiple different case lengths for each chamber. The ,manufacturer forgot to number case length options for each chamber. Is that a chamfer at the root of the forcing cone? David Bradshaw The S&W Jug Johnson Special! |
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Post by parallaxbill on Jun 15, 2023 6:18:29 GMT -5
Having been a QC manager, and 42 year machinist I don't know how this could have ever gotten by the many steps in the QC inspecting process, if there actually is one at S&W now.
It makes me wonder if someone grabbed a cylinder out of the scrap bin for some reason and slapped it together. All that metal machining debris and the obvious lack of deburring makes me think this.
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Post by parallaxbill on Jun 15, 2023 6:23:51 GMT -5
Having looked at it some more I think the cylinder was rejected after a boring tool had failed and subsequently it never made it to a finish reamer, deburring and final inspection. But it still got assembled anyway and missed final inspection. More than one person messed this gun up.
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 15, 2023 6:24:15 GMT -5
Having been a QC manager, and 42 year machinist I don't know how this could have ever gotten by the many steps in the QC inspecting process, if there actually is one at S&W now. It makes me wonder if someone grabbed a cylinder out of the scrap bin for some reason and slapped it together. All that metal machining debris and the obvious lack of deburring makes me think this. That was my thoughts as well. At least the part about the complete lack of QC. My shop got in a fair selection of S&Ws. All have issues with fit and finish... |
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Post by squawberryman on Jun 15, 2023 6:37:39 GMT -5
All, sad.
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 15, 2023 6:52:26 GMT -5
Seems the reality we deal with these days. Had this gun gone for a "Professional" Review, it would have been quietly returned for a hand picked one.
All we would have read is "these guns are wonderful."
At the same time, if you'd ordered one of these and got one like this, it would be the buyer's problem.
This is the same issues we saw with Colt prior to the CZ Takeover. I can't say a lemon won't slip by CZ. But, I can tell you that the Colt Quality I'm seeing now is top notch.
There are some brands I'll order feeling comfortable, then there are other brands...
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Post by oddshooter on Jun 15, 2023 9:54:38 GMT -5
I've always had great luck just calling the S&W factory and getting pre-paid shipping; half a dozen times.
This cylinder would surely be replaced.
But I haven't had to ship one back to the mothership in years. I normally buy older, used models and get to fully check them out.
My experience even complaining of stiff triggers has been excellent. They called and asked me what DA and what SA weight I wanted.
Prescut
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Post by AxeHandle on Jun 15, 2023 16:50:39 GMT -5
Something definitely smells bad here. Went out front and picked one up off the shelf. Looks like this..   |
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 15, 2023 17:25:22 GMT -5
If this one had a cylinder like that, it would've had a new home...
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nickb
.240 Incinerator
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Post by nickb on Jun 16, 2023 16:42:40 GMT -5
Axe is that a ding in the cylinder at the 11 o’clock position ?
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owen67
.30 Stingray
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Post by owen67 on Jun 17, 2023 0:24:41 GMT -5
Dang that first gun looked like they used a 1/8NPT tap to ream the chambers!
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Post by magnumwheelman on Jun 19, 2023 7:56:23 GMT -5
maybe it was a reject, & got tossed to a scrap bin, & the thrower missed the scrap bin, & some "do gooder" or clean up person knew it shouldn't be on the floor, & placed it in the cylinder bin??? but, I can't imagine that going out looking like that
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