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Post by CraigC on Mar 7, 2023 10:19:30 GMT -5
I don't shoot anything hooter than a 240gr at 1200fps out of my N-frames. Rugers may get a 355gr at 1350fps. Heavier Bullets doesn't translate into "Hotter" Loads. Should be quite easy to develop a 300 grn Load that produces less pressure than factory loads. And you'll gain a lot more from the added mass than you ever will from velocity.
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Post by bula on Mar 7, 2023 11:00:14 GMT -5
Kid44, do you handload ?
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Post by bobwright on Mar 7, 2023 13:33:54 GMT -5
With a 300 grain bullet there's no reason to push the bullet real hard. Load to 1000-1100 fps and you'll be well under book max for most powders. If modest heavy bullet loads are harder on a revolver than hot light bullet loads I'd appreciate someone explaining why. As a general rule, heavier bullets ten to induce greater recoil in the revolver, simply by getting more mass in motion. Recoil puts a strain on the revolver's top strap, and strain induces metal fatigue. It may not show up in many years, or maybe not at all, but the manufacturer will take the precaution. Bob Wright
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Post by Encore64 on Mar 7, 2023 13:46:18 GMT -5
I realize we all adopt our own theories, etc. But, has any of this information been verified?
Did S&W advise this or was it somebody at S&W opinion? Was this published as information regarding S&W Revolvers?
Has there been verification that heavier bullets damage any part of a revolver?
I thoroughly understand not shooting Buffalo Bore and other +P Loads in some guns. Clearly a M29 is not as strong as a Redhawk. But, that's pushing SAAMI Specs or more.
I wouldn't shoot 50k 45 Colt in my M25. Doesn't mean it's not good for standard 45 Colt Loads of different bullet weights.
Always curious as to the origin of various facts...
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Post by jfs on Mar 7, 2023 14:03:51 GMT -5
I had a pre endurance 29-3 that the cylinder would unlock and rotate backwards while shooting 240 factory ammo... Don`t want that happening in bear country......
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Post by bobwright on Mar 7, 2023 14:51:26 GMT -5
I had a pre endurance 29-3 that the cylinder would unlock and rotate backwards while shooting 240 factory ammo... Don`t want that happening in bear country...... I had the same, or similar, experience with my early Model 29. Not 240 gr. but 245 gr. cast SWC with 25.0 IMR-4227 @ 1400 f.p.s. (actually clocked at an avg. 1399 f.p.s.) In addition to the reverse rotation and unlocking, I had two firing pin strikes, slightly offset from each other, on slightly less deeply imprinted. As to top strap stretching, my custom Colt SAA .357 Magnum had the top strap stretch so that the barrel was noticeably angled downward, and the rear of the cylinder bound against the top of the frame. Bob Wright
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Post by Encore64 on Mar 7, 2023 14:53:56 GMT -5
Interesting. Sounds like a good Ruger, BFR or Freedom Arms is in order...
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Post by kid44 on Mar 8, 2023 11:22:24 GMT -5
Kid44, do you handload ? No, I don't, it would have to be a factory load for me. Have always used Remington, Winchester, Hornady. Have a box or two from Double Tap, and Buffalo Bore The Hornady are 240 and 300 gr XRP and the BB is the 255 gr "Reduced Recoil" hard cast.
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Post by bula on Mar 8, 2023 11:56:43 GMT -5
I believe, Federal still sells the 300gr WFN CASTCORE loading. It is about 100 fps behind the gourmet loaders, BB, Underwood and such. I've taken deer with that load, you will not recover a bullet. I would say a good bear choice, for defense or hunting. Speers 270gr SP another factory load worthy. Stay safe, incidents with poorly behaving wildlife are only rising.
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Post by kid44 on Mar 9, 2023 10:37:16 GMT -5
I believe, Federal still sells the 300gr WFN CASTCORE loading. It is about 100 fps behind the gourmet loaders, BB, Underwood and such. I've taken deer with that load, you will not recover a bullet. I would say a good bear choice, for defense or hunting. Speers 270gr SP another factory load worthy. Stay safe, incidents with poorly behaving wildlife are only rising. That one may be discontinued, but there are equivalent, or better loads from the "gourmet loaders". I have always heard that Buffalo Bore is a tad hot but can't personally say one way or the other, I see both good and bad reviews.
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