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Post by Fowler on May 28, 2009 16:17:34 GMT -5
I have toyed with the idea of a Guide gun for a while. I think if I could find a Marlin 45 colt Trapper model with a 16" barrel it might suit me better. I have shot the 44 mag leverguns where the loads got warm enough to take the fun out of things in a hurry, a 45/70 in that size of gun just sounds like a great way to get your teeth kicked in! I mean in that Marlin Action you can scare 458 Winchester performance levels!
Now the guide gun running a 350gr bullet at 1100fps might be all sorts of fun but then I could do that in a 45 colt just as easily.
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Post by salvo on May 28, 2009 16:56:54 GMT -5
fowler your logic is getting way to practical ;D
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Post by nobearsyet on May 28, 2009 17:42:08 GMT -5
Maybe you ought to shoot my 500S&W levergun, it's not as bad as a 45-70 guide gun without the porting, but it's worse than a stought 44 out of a similiar sized Marlin. But then again I probably shouldn't have used a steel buttplate
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Post by Fowler on May 28, 2009 22:28:15 GMT -5
Salvo I never said I would do one or the other but at this point in my life I have to pick my battles one at a time. I have a Winchester 94 trapper in .357 that was given to my father and after it sat there for 5 years I took it home to play with it. It has certainly made me want a similar gun in a trapper configuration. But down the road who knows, but I have seem to lost my lust for bolt action rifles, I have a couple that shoot better than I do but are way too boring....
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Post by nobearsyet on May 29, 2009 11:41:05 GMT -5
I agree, leverguns are a lot more fun. But the fact is oone must not discount action strength and the variety of calibers available in the bolt guns that just wouldn't work in the levers due to various reasons
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Post by salvo on May 29, 2009 13:40:02 GMT -5
Me too fowler, my bolt guns have set idle for quite some time, I started mule deer hunting with my Dads 1949 Marlin 336A when I was twelve. I've gone full circle since then with the bolts, bows, handguns and muzzle stuffers in between. The bolts will come in handi again when I get so old I can't use iron sights any more! I still use my .54 cal. cap lock when ever a draw a tag her in NV. And hope to get some time in with my new .475 Linebaugh:)
nobearsyet, you can get about any reasonable chambering in a levergun with the Winchester/Browning 1895, Savage 88 and Browning BLR. I have a Browning 1895 in 30-06 that is as accurate as most bolt guns.
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Post by nobearsyet on May 29, 2009 16:34:20 GMT -5
However, for the most part the magnums are still off limits in a levergun
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Post by salvo on May 29, 2009 19:25:10 GMT -5
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Post by Fowler on May 29, 2009 22:02:21 GMT -5
I have a family heirloom in a Winchester 64 in 30WCF. The finish is rough, the gun has loads of character but the bore is shiny and it shoots petty little groups with cast or jacket bullets. The gun does not hit anywhere near the sights and I need a new peep and maybe a new front bead if and when I get serious about playing with the gun more.
The gun was purchased used for my father when he was 13 and he killed his first and only deer later that year or the next. It was lost amongst the family when he went to the army and when I was 14 he tried to get it back but never managed to get his hands on it. A couple of years ago the family mooch that was holding it needed something and was leveraged to get his rifle back and it was passed to me soon afterwords. I plan to hand it down to one of my sons one of these days, but I plan on killing a deer one of these days with it first.....
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Post by salvo on May 30, 2009 1:20:27 GMT -5
fowler, I don't think I have ever heard of an in-accurate 64. Plus those 64's are sleek and sexy. My Dad gave me his 1949 Marlin 336A that I spoke of above, right after I killed my first muley, he bought it new with his dad in 49. Like yours, I'm sure, it is my prized possession. I have two daughters, I hope one of them has me a grandson that I can pass it too some day. I even let the old man shoot it now and then ;D Here is a picture of my dad and the 336A from last summer doing a bit of target work.  I have a like new 1953 Model 64, I would trade it for a family piece with character in a Minuit! |
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Post by nobearsyet on May 30, 2009 10:09:46 GMT -5
Dumb question I AM sure but hwta are the major differences between the 94 and the 64?
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Post by salvo on May 30, 2009 12:17:58 GMT -5
nobearsyet, the 64 has the same receiver as the 94's, just configured differently. Easiest to just post a picture ;D Like I really need a reason!  |
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Post by sugarriver on May 30, 2009 15:40:16 GMT -5
Nice example Scott! Looks a lot like mine.
As you said, they're basically a 94 with 24" bbl, 2/3 mag, and pistol grip. But to my mind, the 64 is what a 30WCF should look like.
Don't forget the hi grade version, with nice walnut and checkering.
Pete
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Post by salvo on May 30, 2009 18:21:54 GMT -5
Thanks Pete! Your right, and don't forget the sling swivels. Model 64's are just plain sexy  |
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Post by nobearsyet on May 30, 2009 19:48:21 GMT -5
Oh, there's one of those in Glendale for sale, he has it advertised as a 94 though.
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