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Post by edwardyoung on May 29, 2009 21:48:46 GMT -5
Flat. I prefer how it looks and feels
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Post by mt on May 30, 2009 21:50:05 GMT -5
I like the flat housing, it give's me a faster more reliable full contact with the grip safety. Fail to get that grip safety depressed when you're in a hurry and no boom boom for you.
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Post by nobearsyet on May 31, 2009 22:57:36 GMT -5
Unless you have it pinned
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Post by mt on Jun 1, 2009 0:19:53 GMT -5
Unless you have it pinned Pinned safety's are for people with missing parts.  mt |
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Post by nobearsyet on Jun 1, 2009 11:03:36 GMT -5
Or guys like me that a normal firing grip doesn't always disengage it, but now I have the nice little bump on all of mine and it disengages every time
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Post by tomf on Jun 1, 2009 19:16:03 GMT -5
If JMB intended for it to be that way, was it the military that required the arched MSH? Not doubting you, just curious. Changes that the military wanted around 1927 give or take a year. The 1911 came flat and long. The military decided that the arched would keep more shooters from pointing low, and the short trigger came along to keep the reach about the same. There were cuts in line with the trigger on the frame, also, and another change or two that I don't recall. It was then designated 1911A1. that's how i always heard it. my first 1911 came with a flat housing, so I got used to it and have gotten flat on my other 1911s for familiarty's sake. that's how I |
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Post by nobearsyet on Jun 2, 2009 11:51:38 GMT -5
Familiarity is definitely an important factor when considering stuff like that IMHO
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Post by maxcactus on Jun 2, 2009 23:49:20 GMT -5
Flat and long here -- the way John Browning intended. Seriously, it's what feels best to the individual. 10 years of competition proved that the right configuration for me. It might not be for you. I'm another Flat & Long man. It's never been about "kewl" for me - just what fits. My first 1911, A Springfield Armory, came with an arched housing. I used it for a year and never liked the feel of it, but when you don't have anything else to comapare it with.... Finally, while a friend was doing some basic smithing on it for me and told me to try his 1911 with a flat housing. It was one of those "epiphanies" you remember. Combined with the longer trigger, I shoot the same gun much better. The primary issue for me is the difference in the way the gun points with a flat housing vs. arched. Heck, that's the same reason almost all my single actions have Bisley grip frames. Max. Corrected from "Flat and Arched" to "Flat and Long" - must have been drinking when I posted that one! |
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Post by ceb on Jun 4, 2009 8:49:45 GMT -5
Flat with short trigger for me on my Kimber Pro CDP.
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Post by rexster on Jun 28, 2009 6:05:33 GMT -5
Flat. And, long trigger. Not because it is cool, but because it works for me. By "works," I mean it quite seriously. With anything but a flat MSH, I don't always depress the grip safety far enough with my skinny, bony hand. I also need the junction of the trigger guard and front strap to be relieved, or sculpted that way from scratch, as with Les Baer frames.
I used to think the Wedge MSH, as offered for a while by Ed Brown Products, was best for me, but while it felt good in my hand, results on target were not as consistent. Also, though I can't now recall for sure, I may have caught myself not depressing the grip safety far enough a couple of time with a Wedge MSH.
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Post by nonpcnrarn on Jun 29, 2009 23:33:59 GMT -5
Unless you have it pinned Pinned safety's are for people with missing parts. mt My Star PD has no grip safety and I do not feel that it is any less safe than my 1911. There are many semiautos that don't have a grip safety. If someone has the grip safety pinned to ensure that the gun will fire 100% of the time regardless of how it is gripped in a stressful situation, I see no problem with that. There is more than one way to ensure that the grip safety is depressed when firing the gun. It definitely looks better than a grip safety with a lump of metal protruding rearward. |
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Jun 30, 2009 6:42:25 GMT -5
Axehandle,
Your comment kind of tickled me. My flat mainspring housing days go back to 1960 or '61 and an original 1911 (not an A1). It would give me a headache to count the number of Flat / Longs I've owned and shot extensively, so I won't bother. Imagine my shock a few years ago when I bought a Clark Pin Gun, and discovered that the Arched / Short combo actually fit me much better!
I'm a hard head, though, so the only A-1 I own today is a Flat / Long Springfield Champion. I guess there's SOMETHING to be said for being used to something!
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Post by Gary @ R&G on Jun 30, 2009 8:13:48 GMT -5
I carry a 1911 almost daily (BHP some days). For years I liked flat but recently have gone back to arched. I have a mixture on my guns. Cant tell they impact my shooting. I guess it is personal preference.
the 1924 1911A1 is referrred to as the transitional model. 10,000 of the new A1's were purchased by the government.
As JMB designed it? If you read anything on JMB many of his patents were modifications and improvements on existing models. Many of the features on the 1911 are in place because the Government wanted them not because JMB felt they were necessary or even wanted. There is a great book titled "John M Browning American Gunmaker" which contains a wealth of information.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jun 30, 2009 9:15:15 GMT -5
To elaborate a bit on my preference... Deep into my bullseye shooting years I became aware that there was an empty spot at the heel of my hand when I gripped the gun... Now this void was typically most noticeable when shooting issue GI ball ammo in the service pistol match at the end of a 360 round match plus another 120 rounds of team shooting. Granted at this point in time I was a high master with a USAF Distinguished Pistol Shot badge, a Chief's Fifty badge, and was a member of the All National Guard shooting team but... Just think of what I could have been with the right mainspring housing...  |
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