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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 14, 2022 16:58:15 GMT -5
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 14, 2022 16:58:29 GMT -5
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Post by magpouch on Sept 14, 2022 17:06:04 GMT -5
I have to say thank you to Mister Handle for all the great info he has been posting. I really want one of these .22 mag snubbies. Hard to find though...
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 15, 2022 16:41:04 GMT -5
8 Shots DAO @ 21 feet  |
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 15, 2022 16:41:51 GMT -5
8 Shot DAO @ 21 Feet  |
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Post by magpouch on Sept 15, 2022 16:58:50 GMT -5
Looks like the 45 grain FTX may not be flyin straight looking at the holes in the paper. Small group though??
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 15, 2022 17:02:49 GMT -5
Free hanging paper can tear like that. I'll hang a stiffer piece and shoot it again for you
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 16, 2022 18:57:46 GMT -5
..and here it is. Federal 45 Grain FTX. 8 shots at 21 feet. All keyholing. Explains the dismal groups at 50 feet.  |
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 16, 2022 18:58:59 GMT -5
Today CCI VMAX 30 grain... 8 at 21 feet DAO  |
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 16, 2022 19:01:44 GMT -5
Same gun, same ammo, 8 shots DAO at 50 feet.. Looks like we have a winner!  |
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Post by magpouch on Sept 16, 2022 20:00:03 GMT -5
It likes the lighter bullets.
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Post by jeffh on Sept 17, 2022 10:10:03 GMT -5
AxeHandle! Is that sticker from Larry's Pistol & Pawn?
My favorite, all-time, best-ever gun shop anywhere I've ever been!
MY hypothesis on the heavy triggers on the smaller DA revolvers is that when firing pins moved from the nose of the hammer to the frame, and a transfer bar was also stuck in there, no (or not enough) further engineering was done to make up for the losses of momentum being eaten up by the chain reaction of transferring the energy from a low-mass, short-throw hammer. Taurus seems to have done further damage by not making up for the seemingly lighter hammers as MIM parts came into vogue, with their hollow sections - recesses, dimples, whatever they are called. Much heavier springs seem to have been the cheap and easy solution.
I don't mean to keep harping on Charter, but as a comparison, one way Charter seems to keep costs down is to keep doing things the way they've been doing things, and their hammers on their small revolvers, and even (especially) on their rimfires) are still the same old hammers as on their larger-frame revolvers. I've not had this same problem in Charter's revolvers, but Taurus has some really nice stuff available, and I just wish they'd address this issue.
I ran into a guy, probably 80yo, heading into a shop as I was heading out one day. He had a brand-new Taurus 94, 22 LR, looking to sell or trade. I told him I thought they were nice little guns and asked to see it. As soon as I started cocking it, he said "THAT's why I need to sell it!" Turns out he couldn't shoot it in DA because he didn't have the hand strength.
I almost wonder if a HEAVIER aftermarket hammer might not do more good that heavy springs.
If I've said this before, I apologize. I think it a lot and don't really have anyone to actually talk to about guns and sometimes I start to say something here and then abandon the post because I don't want to sound like a broken record - although in my head, I sound like a broken record.
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 17, 2022 10:56:12 GMT -5
Larry's it is! I've been a regular here since I got transferred to Huntsville in 1989. Retired from real work in September of 2012. Started working at Larrys part time as a RSO. Still part time but am now the range manager.
Contacted Charter last year about a spare hammer for my Pit Bull and were told they were not available.
Perhaps with the increased popularity of the Taurus revolvers the aftermarket part makers will help us out. Then I look at my Taurus with the $8 spring kit and then look at the $400 upgrade I do to my L frame S&Ws.
FWIW I've never been a Taurus, of any sort, fan. The G2 and G3 semi auto guns on our range changed my thinking. These little beasts may not be the best but there is nothing in their price range the store that will hold a candle to them. The little snub nose guns are turning out to be much of the same thing. Started with the 9mm Taurus snub because it was 1/2 the price of my S&W 942. Then there was the 327, a pair of 38s, and lastly the 22M. I am more impressed each time I shoot them. If the others slick up like this 22M they will be something to behold in a few 100 rounds.
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Post by jeffh on Sept 17, 2022 16:53:28 GMT -5
I left Huntsville in 85. All but one of my friends from there has passed now and I've not been back in a long time. Man, had it changed since the time I'd left, but Larry's was still just off the Memorial Parkway and I found that just fine. We were made to feel very at home there.
I think right now that Charter is using all the parts they get, and I think they "get" all the parts they use - none made in-house. I'd try every couple months until they have one left over on a run or something. I sure hope they aren't tightening up on selling parts. It's one of the great things about them - same parts in most of the guns and same since when they started making them.
I've not been a Taurus fan in many years, but what you've shown here convinced me it was worth giving a new one a try. I'm glad I did. I cut wood with the neighbor this afternoon and let him shoot it. I was impressed with his shooting and he was impressed with the revolver. I have a feeling he may go looking for one too now.
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 17, 2022 18:25:16 GMT -5
Ran a box of 30 grain CCI Maxi Mags through the snub nose 22 Mag at close of business today... 48 rounds DAO at 21 feet. Not quite as good as the Mini Mags but not bad. Every 50 rounds count.   |
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