Match Pics

[zeus]

Here are a few pictures from the match that was mentioned in the IG thread.

Gabriel talking wind with a teammate before he shot. This stage gave him the win in this match. 2 on plate at 2 miles and 1 at 3754 yards.



Calculating dope about to put the prism on the rail for reticle shift. You can see it laying on the mat below the rifle.


Setting up for this string of targets. You can see the prism I. Front of the scope here. This particular one shifts the reticle 29.2 mils. Close to 100 MOA. This set up is fast. Then you have 6 mins to engage two targets with 5 rounds each. The flight time is so long with these shots that you can use all 6 minutes sometimes by the time you shoot 10 rounds and have to transition and set up on the next target.




About to send one at 2 miles


2 mile target, these are ranged with Vector 21/23 rangefinders. Typically we will have about 4 of these units running to verify distances.


If you can look at where my spotter is pointed that I’m looking through, the target is on the horizon in this picture if that gives you and idea of what we are looking at downrange.






This is a view back to the firing line from the 2 mile target
There is an old farmhouse next to the firing line in the center portion of the pic.

[bigbrowndog]

Did I miss the size of the target somewhere??? Is it 2moa or 1moa or what??
Thanks,
Trapr

[zeus]

It’s a 36” square plate which works out to be basically 1 MOA, slightly less but not enough to matter. I think a 1MOA at that distance is about 37”. The entire first day, we were never off by more than .2 on wind calls which is basically the edges of the plate. Day two was the same except for his first shot on the 2 mile plate. I was 1.6 left on that one. I had three mirages all doing slightly different things. Afterwards I realized I was looking at a mirages probably a 1000 yards in front of the target which we were well over the top of coming in at that plate so I was not getting the effects I was expecting on the bullet. Easy fix, dial and send. Boom.

I don’t post these thing being they aren’t handgun related but figured some may like to see the pics.

[bigbrowndog]

It looked 36” ish to me, but didn’t want to assume. Thanks Zeus

Trapr

[jfs]

Hey Glenn, Tell Gabe that Mr. James said "don`t stop now"...... the gun is almost as big as him...  You have got to be one proud poppa...

[magnumwheelman]

I enjoyed the pictures... & certainly not intended to diminish anything from the shooter(s), but makes me wonder if the spotter is as critical as the shooter, being able to properly dope, & read through the mirages, etc. or at least get as much credit as a team member... & how much difference the state of art spotting gear must make???

I'd love to stretch out my shooting longer than the 300 yards on my range... I have a custom Blueprinted BRNO 6.5 x 284 built, with a 20 MOA base...I'm curious about the prism... are you somehow using an adjustable MOA base or or is it a tool to help adjust the elevation of what is already built into the scope, for the extreme distance, or something else???

[magnumwheelman]

I'm learning...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TZDrqaLkOg

[zeus]

The spotter is 100% as important. We watch our misses and can correct 90+% of the time but it never hurts to have extra eyes. The spotters are how we get on a lot of the plates and back up what we see through our scope. But also remember, the spotter is also a shooter. So we all gauge wind/direction etc. it change change several times by the time it reaches its target. We are also several hundred feet above the ground which is typically stronger winds for X amount of time. The spotting scopes we use are exceptional so it’s much easier to see splash in that glass. We all do wind differently. About 4 of us do it on our own then come together and look at it as a team. We do this pretty much every time it’s one of our guys coming to the line. What’s interesting is how close together our numbers always are. Pretty cool that we can do it and view it differently but end result is typically almost the same.

The Charlie prism we have used for a few years. I don’t prefer it. Various reason. Ifs it’s not perfectly aligned on that scope, it may land on another mountain face. A lot of us have switched to the Nightforce “wedge” prism. Very very light and repeatable and easy. I’m happy with the NF so far. I have two. One in 50MOA, one in 100MOA. They are stackable. So for a 4300 yard shot I can stack two 100s and be closer to what I need. The biggest trouble is you start to see “barrel” in your scope if you use that much and it impairs the clear image somewhat. There are ways around it but for only one target per year maybe, I just don’t worry about it

This is 2 100s stacked in this pic earlier this season.

[contender]

Great stuff Glen!

[foxtrapper]

Proud Pop! Smile on your sons face says it all! Could you tell us about the rifle?

[zeus]

Sure. I’ll get a few pics together.

[leftysixgun]

Glen, what cartridge was Gabriel shooting?

[zeus]

Final pic is the end configuration. This is a 416 caliber based on a 408 CT case blown out and improved. We run the Cutting Edge Laser 500 grain a touch over 2900 fps. It’s extremely consistent and way better than dealing with brass issues of the 416 Barrett or dealing with 50BMG based rounds. I’ve built a 460Steyr and while it’s a hammer, I prefer to not use 50 based cases rounds. The Barrett guys I know for accuracy have theirs downloaded to 3000 or less a lot of time so they get not advantage to this one and my brass is made by Petersen and is excellent quality.

This is a dummy round of the original chamber next to a 300 win mag and then just the projectile to the 300 WM





We didn’t really name the round. I have the barrels marked 10.6x77 improved. Our team changes the name every match n the score sheets just for fun. I think we had them listed this weekend as the 416 Chimichanga and the 416 Fajita. 🤣

The action of this rifle is a BAT 1.75” Model L. Mine is a 2” Model EXS. Both of our rifles run Bartlein 9 twist barrels, his is 1.75” for about 5 and tapers to 1.4@38” mine is 1.95”for 5 and tapers to 1.4@38”. We have run Bartlein for years now. They make a great barrel and the accuracy is amazing. These two barrels were manufactured 1 year apart. They shoot exactly the same speed and groups with the exact same load. That’s a testament to their consistency in manufacturing to me.

Brakes are Terminator T5. Great Brakes!

The stocks are both Model LRT from Manners Composites. They are the most comfortable and best handling stocks made for this sport. Tom Manners is an amazing guy and his support of the shooting sports is unmatched. They are here in Kansas City. He helped me make the modifications we wanted on Gabriel’s stock recently. We added a bag rider set up that allows him to make small adjustments with a wheel in the bottom of the stock. This recent match was his second match with that change and he has really settled into it nicely. He loves the changes. We also added weight by adding plates to the cheek piece studs. We can add or take away from those as needed. But adding the weight to this area shifts the center of gravity on the stock back to rear portion of grip area and helps it track perfectly during recoil. If you look, you can see the changes to the buttstock portion in the two pics above.

We used to use a lot of Phoenix F class style bipods. With the rule changes in the King or 2 Mile match, we have since started using bipods from AccuTac. We use the HD 50 and the WB4. The WB4 is shorter and saves me some weight. The weight is 40 lbs for that match but 45-50 for all others. Unfortunately we build the guns for that one match it seems.

Triggers are Trigger tech diamonds of various styles. Great trigger. No creep and easily adjustable for weight.

[Big Bore]

Very impressed. And very hard for me to wrap my head around.

[aciera]

Thanks.
A friend was a builder and shooter at Williamsport in the 50s on.
Nice to see the newer stuff.