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Post by Encore64 on Feb 7, 2022 14:26:35 GMT -5
Has any forum member ever seen a Single Action Revolver blown up where the cylinder wasn't the first thing to give way?
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Post by 45MAN on Feb 7, 2022 14:43:09 GMT -5
HARD TO KNOW WHAT GAVE FIRST, BUT IN ALL THE BLOW UP REVOLVERS I HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF, AND THE ONE I HAD, THE CYLINDER DID GIVE WAY.
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 7, 2022 14:47:53 GMT -5
If the cylinder is blown, I see no way that it didn't go first.
Thanks Rey...
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Post by taffin on Feb 7, 2022 14:50:57 GMT -5
Has any forum member ever seen a Single Action Revolver blown up where the cylinder wasn't the first thing to give way? and how would you tell? |
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Post by pacecars on Feb 7, 2022 14:55:50 GMT -5
Are you talking from an overload? I could see an out of time revolver maybe blowing the barrel off and leaving the cylinder intact or something similar
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Post by Fowler on Feb 7, 2022 15:00:58 GMT -5
How else would it happen? if there was a bore obstruction the barrel would split of course but I don't see any other way. I am open to being enlightened if I am missing something though...
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 7, 2022 15:02:21 GMT -5
I would assume if the frame, etc gave away, the cylinder wouldn't come apart since it's the center.
Where as if the cylinder gave away, likely everything outside of it would give away.
If the damage started on the outside and worked it's way inwards, that would be an implosion.
I think with damage to any firearm would likely be more of an explosion since combustion starts at the powder.
Suppose I could rephrase the question and ask if anyone has ever seen a S.A. Revolver destroyed where the cylinder wasn't? Not talking about barrels damaged from stuck bullets, etc. But, frame damage...
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 7, 2022 15:06:24 GMT -5
How else would it happen? if there was a bore obstruction the barrel would split of course but I don't see any other way. I am open to being enlightened if I am missing something though... I'm in agreement. But, not everyone is. I've heard stories about weak frames, etc giving way. But, no pictures or evidence to back it up. I keep getting warning messages about weak frames. But, no one can tell me what validation there is for a weak frame theory... |
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Post by pacecars on Feb 7, 2022 15:24:37 GMT -5
I could see maybe the cylinder bulging and then maybe the frame going but it still starts with the cylinder, I think.
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Post by pacecars on Feb 7, 2022 15:27:49 GMT -5
Worst case scenario: old balloon head case in a SAA that has a lot of front to back play and at the moment of ignition the cylinder is forward and the case is all the way back leaving part unsupported. Case ruptures and blows out the top strap (and part of your hand I would think)?
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Post by magnumwheelman on Feb 7, 2022 15:57:15 GMT -5
I've only have had a cylinder crack at the index notch...
I would expect you could chuck the whole cylinder out of the gun if you were greatly exceeding the frame strength, but not the strength of a custom cylinder... but would expect you would most likely see "stretching" ( like Contenders ) where the head space would change...
agree if the chamber is damaged, that the cylinder was the weak link...
on my cracked cylinder, the frame was a flat top bisley 44 special, & some old handloads of FIL's caused the issue... the cylinder locked up, wouldn't spin in the frame window, but the frame was still fine ( one of those "weaker" flat top bisley's ) pulled a load, I'm guessing whom ever loaded them loaded very hot 44 magnum loads, & squashed them into 44 special cases...
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 7, 2022 17:00:46 GMT -5
Mag, frame stretching is where I was headed next. Drama ensued when JRH built my 480 Ruger Midframe Flattop.
So, I've kept track of gap behind the case and barrel gap since day one. No stretching.
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Post by Fowler on Feb 7, 2022 18:05:28 GMT -5
Well the frames could certainly stretch and/or bend, but as soon as the cylinder throat doesn't meet up with the barrel throat the bullet would hit the stop and the pressure would then build rearwards into the chamber. The cylinder would have to give out. Even if the barrel was to just pop off the threads and blow forwards there wouldn't be anyway for it to happen fast enough for the cylinder to not be compromised I think...
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 7, 2022 18:43:59 GMT -5
Has any forum member ever seen a Single Action Revolver blown up where the cylinder wasn't the first thing to give way? ***** ..... not seen by, but described to this shooter by silhouetter Eric King, his Seville .375 Super Mag breaking horizontal along base pin. While shooting rams @ 500 meters. Cylinder held, frame let go. Call it a broken, as opposed to blown-up, revolver. Haven’t heard of, or seen, a Ruger, Smith & Wesson, or Colt frame break from fatigue. As cylinder contains cartridge, a blow-up starts here. Short of surrounding it with dynamite, don’t know how a revolver could implode. David Bradshaw |
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Post by potatojudge on Feb 7, 2022 18:53:51 GMT -5
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