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Post by jiminpa on Jan 18, 2022 16:00:03 GMT -5
I found some Hornady 200 gr.hollowpoints .430, and some Sierra 210 gr.jhc power jacket .4295. Anybody use them for deer? I would use them in my SBH. Thanks for your opinion.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Jan 18, 2022 18:07:15 GMT -5
I’ve used the Hornady’s on pigs from an AutoMag, they were quite accurate and I wouldn’t hesitate to use them on deer, MV was 1600fps.
The Sierras were great out of my 629, never chrono’d those, very accurate, and again would t hesitate to use on deer,……however for both, I’d want a broadside or slightly quartering shot, and if shoulders were avoided you should get an exit.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 18, 2022 18:38:45 GMT -5
I found some Hornady 200 gr.hollowpoints .430, and some Sierra 210 gr.jhc power jacket .4295. Anybody use them for deer? I would use them in my SBH. Thanks for your opinion. ***** Both of these .44’s are excellent bullets, possessed of predictable expansion characteristics and very high accuracy. Shooting Steel has a photo of nickel M-29 8-3/8” with Leupold 4x28mm EER (Extended Eye Relief) scope, on a target with 5x5 shots into 2.0” @ 100 yards, sandbag. Ad I recall, the load is the pre-XTP Hornady 200 JHP over 22/Hercules 2400, CCI 350 and Winchester .44 Mag brass. The Sierra 210 JC (Jacketed Hollow Cavity) runs this same zone over 22.5 to 26 grains/296 (or self-same H110). I’ve taken whitetails with the Hornady 200 JHP with the S&W M-29 4-inch and one or two other sixguns. These are real lung-shot bullets. The .44 200 JHP plays junior to the old, profoundly fine Hornady 240 JHP. These may qualify for antique status among expanding revolver bullets. But there is nothing antiquated about their performance. Whitetails come in a diversity of sizes, the hunting of them a diversity of styles, the deer’s range of environ & climate even even more extreme. Nothing should be taken for granted, especially one’s marksmanship. A bullet in this class is better tucked tight behind the shoulder than through it. David Bradshaw |
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Post by cmillard on Jan 18, 2022 19:17:34 GMT -5
I have always found Hornady xtp bullets to achieve high levels of accuracy.
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Post by taffin on Jan 18, 2022 20:00:31 GMT -5
I found some Hornady 200 gr.hollowpoints .430, and some Sierra 210 gr.jhc power jacket .4295. Anybody use them for deer? I would use them in my SBH. Thanks for your opinion. Both are excellent performing, accurate shooting .44 bullets. There is not a deer alive that would be able to tell you the difference in them. |
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Post by jiminpa on Feb 6, 2022 9:44:09 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what velocity i should use when using these weight bullets? Thanks.
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Post by contender on Feb 6, 2022 11:53:08 GMT -5
I'd look at 1100 to 1200 fps range.
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 6, 2022 12:14:20 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what velocity i should use when using these weight bullets? Thanks. ***** jiminpa.... Hornady Handbook, 3rd Edition, shows 200 JHP in Super Blackhawk 7-1/2”: * 22/2400 = 1,300 fps. * 26/H110 = 1,400 fps. Sierra Manual, 3rd Edition, shows 210 JHC in Super Blackhawk 7-1/2”: * 23.7/2400 = 1,400 fps. * 24.6/H110 = 1,400 fps. Loads shown are are below maximum. These velocities expand on lung-shot whitetail. Higher velocity works, also, as demonstrated in .44 Mag carbines. David Bradshaw |
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Post by jiminpa on Feb 6, 2022 14:27:52 GMT -5
Thank you.
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Post by lostdoe2021 on Feb 17, 2022 18:15:18 GMT -5
cant remember the what they are but 20 gauge remmington slugger slug does the job on deer
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 18, 2022 8:11:01 GMT -5
cant remember the what they are but 20 gauge remmington slugger slug does the job on deer ***** The tremendous impact of a shotgun slug is offset by limited penetration. Sometime in the early 1980’s, Remington sponsored a shotgun slug silhouette shoot at Lyman’s Blue Trail Range in Wallingford, Connecticut. Organized, as I recall, be then Connecticut IHMSA director Frank Scotto. (Scotto was later elected IHMSA president after Elgin Gates died in 1988.) The informal “match” was shot offhand. Not sure we even bothered to set rams (@ 200 yards or meters). Remington supplied Model 1100 gas-operated shotguns with iron-sight slug barrels, along with plentiful slug loads. None of us could duplicate our accuracy on silhouettes with magnum revolvers. Cumulative recoil of the slugs was brutal, even from the soft-kicking 1100. A pump gun would have been downright nasty. It was a raw, cold day, which stiffens limbs accentuates recoil. My impression of shotgun slugs renders heavy close range punch----at the expense of penetration. David Bradshaw |
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Post by woody on Feb 18, 2022 9:26:52 GMT -5
cant remember the what they are but 20 gauge remmington slugger slug does the job on deer ***** The tremendous impact of a shotgun slug is offset by limited penetration. Sometime in the early 1980’s, Remington sponsored a shotgun slug silhouette shoot at Lyman’s Blue Trail Range in Wallingford, Connecticut. Organized, as I recall, be then Connecticut IHMSA director Frank Scotto. (Scotto was later elected IHMSA president after Elgin Gates died in 1988.) The informal “match” was shot offhand. Not sure we even bothered to set rams (@ 200 yards or meters). Remington supplied Model 1100 gas-operated shotguns with iron-sight slug barrels, along with plentiful slug loads. None of us could duplicate our accuracy on silhouettes with magnum revolvers. Cumulative recoil of the slugs was brutal, even from the soft-kicking 1100. A pump gun would have been downright nasty. It was a raw, cold day, which stiffens limbs accentuates recoil. My impression of shotgun slugs renders heavy close range punch----at the expense of penetration. David Bradshaw Well you haven’t hunted with a slug gun much!!!! What do you consider limited penetration? Any slug on the market will give you pass through shots on deer with a very nice big hole coming out. They penetrate very good on deer. Slugs like breneke and lightfields will go through the whole length of a deer. I’ve seen it many times. As far as recoil. Yes they do kick. But guns like the 1100 was very manageable and not punishing. |
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 18, 2022 12:08:30 GMT -5
***** The tremendous impact of a shotgun slug is offset by limited penetration. Sometime in the early 1980’s, Remington sponsored a shotgun slug silhouette shoot at Lyman’s Blue Trail Range in Wallingford, Connecticut. Organized, as I recall, be then Connecticut IHMSA director Frank Scotto. (Scotto was later elected IHMSA president after Elgin Gates died in 1988.) The informal “match” was shot offhand. Not sure we even bothered to set rams (@ 200 yards or meters). Remington supplied Model 1100 gas-operated shotguns with iron-sight slug barrels, along with plentiful slug loads. None of us could duplicate our accuracy on silhouettes with magnum revolvers. Cumulative recoil of the slugs was brutal, even from the soft-kicking 1100. A pump gun would have been downright nasty. It was a raw, cold day, which stiffens limbs accentuates recoil. My impression of shotgun slugs renders heavy close range punch----at the expense of penetration. David Bradshaw Well you haven’t hunted with a slug gun much!!!! What do you consider limited penetration? Any slug on the market will give you pass through shots on deer with a very nice big hole coming out. They penetrate very good on deer. Slugs like breneke and lightfields will go through the whole length of a deer. I’ve seen it many times. As far as recoil. Yes they do kick. But guns like the 1100 was very manageable and not punishing. ***** No, I haven’t hunted deer much with slugs. I have heard from hunters of deer wounded, to not be recovered. This is hund legs woods hunting, not shooting from a stand. Compared with slugs, buckshot is great for wounding deer, close to first-hand wound reports I hear from archery hunters. There is no reason why a property constructed shotgun slug shouldn’t penetrate. But this must be know: spin stabilization increases penetration. The terminal ballistic challenge with wounded game that escapes, POI can’t be proven, nor wound dissected. Were I limited to a shotgun, I’d take the Pilgrim Slug over buckshot, and a refined slug over the pilgrim. It’s good on Singleactions to detail a declarative statement. David Bradshaw |
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Post by wheelguns on Feb 18, 2022 12:55:00 GMT -5
youtu.be/wudMHdNb1eoShotgun slugs have improved greatly in recent years. Unfortunately, they are expensive!
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Post by mod70 on Feb 18, 2022 13:40:49 GMT -5
After a good bullet or slug, it is the same as handgun hunting shot placement and range. Rifled slugs have killed many deer in the slug-only areas with smooth-bored barrels if the above is followed. The new rifled slug barrels are reported to work at longer ranges, I have never shot one. Buckshot will also work I would say under 40 yards to be sure. Pattern to see your kill range.
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