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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 16, 2021 12:03:49 GMT -5
I'm working on a shotgun, refinishing the stock, & I'm trying to match another gun, that has very dark Brazilian Walnut (it's like the color of chocolate)
I stripped / sanded the stock, & the base wood appears to be walnut, but is lots lighter... I bought a small can of the darkest brown oil stain ( not stain finish mixed ) I could get... if I "paint" the stain on, it matches the color of the other stock, but I can't get the wood to absorb enough to match that color, after wiping off the excess... at 3 coats it's looking "painted" & still too light... so I'm probably going to strip it again...
I don't pick up any "black" in the stock I'm trying to match... but I'm thinking about stripping the stock again, & applying a coat of black stain, & wiping it pretty quickly, then letting it dry a little, then give it a 2nd coat of the dark brown...
any other suggestions on how to get these stocks to match???
Thanks
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Post by bullseye on Nov 16, 2021 12:28:41 GMT -5
Try Watco Danish oil, the one labeled Dark Walnut, keep applying it & allow it to soak in thoroughly before wiping off the excess...When they describe it as dark, they aren't kidding.
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Post by potatojudge on Nov 16, 2021 12:36:10 GMT -5
Some woods just don't take up traditional stain like you want.
I'd try a gel stain and see if your stock likes that better. Sometimes gel stains take well over another stain, sometimes stripping the old stain is necessary (and is a huge pain). I think this is your best bet.
I think a black undercoat would likely look muddy and irregular rather than darkening the piece as you hope.
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Post by leftysixgun on Nov 16, 2021 12:37:44 GMT -5
Try Watco Danish oil, the one labeled Dark Walnut, keep applying it & allow it to soak in thoroughly before wiping off the excess...When they describe it as dark, they aren't kidding. Thats great stuff, I have some and yes it is dark!
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Post by tdbarton on Nov 16, 2021 12:55:49 GMT -5
Try Watco Danish oil, the one labeled Dark Walnut, keep applying it & allow it to soak in thoroughly before wiping off the excess...When they describe it as dark, they aren't kidding. This is also what I’d suggest.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 16, 2021 13:49:39 GMT -5
on the Watco brand the Black Walnut looks darker in the color sample, than the Dark Walnut woodnshop.net/products/watco-danish-oil-pints.html#gallery-2has anyone ever tried warming up the wood beforehand with a blow drier??? it's actually pretty cool in my gun room right now, I've not turned the heat on yet...
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Post by tdbarton on Nov 16, 2021 14:59:33 GMT -5
Have you ‘whiskered’ the stock after sanding. You’ll want to do that prior to staining/finishing. Sorry if I’m too late.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Nov 16, 2021 15:37:36 GMT -5
I did not... but I just stripped the checkered areas ( lacquer thinner & tooth brush, so the checkering is still crisp )
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Post by bullseye on Nov 16, 2021 15:53:01 GMT -5
I have some of the Watco Black Walnut as well, my experience with it is that there's not really much difference than the Dark. If you're wanting an almost black/brown color with less coats, that may be the way to go. Those samples look to be on Oak, so keep in mind Walnut will be much darker in comparison once stained & also continues to darken with age.
I use Watco almost exclusively on most of my projects & highly recommend it. One of the things that I frequently use it for is refinishing European Walnut on Italian replica grips & stocks to get rid of that hideous too red varnish they slather all over their wood, and once stripped bare, European & Peruvian Walnuts tends to be lighter colored with a much tighter grain that takes more stain to darken than North American Walnut does.
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