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Post by pacecars on Sept 21, 2021 19:17:58 GMT -5
I have been all over the map with contemplating my next gun. This one has intrigued me for a long time. I am looking at one in the 6.5 BRM as a Coyote and deer gun. I would put a Weaver 2-6x32 on it and slay many beasts. OR would I be better off to go with a Contender in 6.5 JDJ or one of Reeder’s barrels in 6.5 Raptor. It doesn’t have to be 6.5mm but I do prefer a rimmed round. I don’t want to go back to an Encore due to their weight.
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 21, 2021 21:30:44 GMT -5
I have been all over the map with contemplating my next gun. This one has intrigued me for a long time. I am looking at one in the 6.5 BRM as a Coyote and deer gun. I would put a Weaver 2-6x32 on it and slay many beasts. OR would I be better off to go with a Contender in 6.5 JDJ or one of Reeder’s barrels in 6.5 Raptor. It doesn’t have to be 6.5mm but I do prefer a rimmed round. I don’t want to go back to an Encore due to their weight. ***** Eban Brown’s (sp?) single shot pistol earned an excellent reputation in IHMSA silhouette. The receiver is compact and strong. Hammer fall is fast. Trigger breaks clean. For reasons I never wrapped my skull around, single shot pistols are a homely breed, as though aesthetics might taint performance. To my mind, Warren Center was the maestro of modern single shot pistols. The Contender is easy to use and reload in the field, in any weather. The barrel tips open wide enough to clear the wide-rim .45-70. Primary extraction relies on a mechanical cam, not a spring. Among single shots which factored in silhouette: Tip-open * Thompson-Center Contender. Designer: Warren Center. * RPM (Rock Pistol Manufacturing) Merrill. Designer: Rex Merrill; improvements by Jim Rock. * Wichita International (hammer-fired tip-open using Merrill sliding latch lockup). Designer: Bert Stringfellow. Falling blockMOA (Minute of Angle). Designer: Richard Mertz. BF. Designer: Eban Brown. Bolt action* Remington XP-100. Designer: Mike Walker. * Wichita. Designer: Nolan Jackson. Actually, I see the BF as a falling rolling block, or Tilt Block. The BF chamber is difficult for my fingers to reach and, I reckon, impossible for meatball fingers such a grow on Ronnie Wells. It isn’t just on the game trail a single shot should be easy to reload. Silhouette competition flared moments where a fast reload made the difference. For that the T/C shines. David Bradshaw
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Post by pacecars on Sept 21, 2021 22:11:15 GMT -5
Thanks. I got my first Contender back when I was 13, a Super 14 .41 Mag. I put a 2x Leupold on it and shot Fox Squirrels, Raccoons, hogs and deer with it. A few more barrels followed and then I got power hungry and the Encore grabbed my attention. I found the Encore clunky and heavy and not near as svelte as the Contender was. Live and learn I guess. I have also seriously thought about the Contender but I k ow if I get another one I will go barrel crazy
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Post by magnumwheelman on Sept 22, 2021 9:31:21 GMT -5
I never did competition shooting, but for my informal sandbag bench shooting on my range, I really like an action that I don't have to "unbed" the rifle or handgun to reload between shots... bolt actions for the boomers, but I really like shooting my rolling blocks for more tame cartridges... I have 4 custom Martini action rifles in a wide range of cartridges, & to me, those are a walking mans rifle... the tropical actions with the long levers are not bench friendly at all... the Ruger 1's & 3's & EAB falling blocks & old Winchester high & low walls not much more friendly for that type of shooting, because of the levers Magnum Research used to ( maybe still does ) make a rotary breech single shot ( Lone Eagle maybe??? ) one of those might be kinda nice... www.thetruthaboutguns.com/obscure-object-desire-magnum-research-lone-eagle/www.gunbroker.com/item/904959204My buddy used to have a Savage Striker in .308... made me want one of those... not sure the other caliber options
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Sept 22, 2021 10:19:28 GMT -5
Both the 6.5 and .257 JDJ‘s are outstanding, and I have both, but .225 Win. brass is very hard to come by … almost unobtainium new. I‘m thinking that Eben Brown‘s 6.5 BRM is on the .30-30 case. If I‘m correct, that would answer the caliber question for me. Of all the single shot actions though, the Easy-Open Contender, pre-G2, is my favorite, because of the adjustable trigger, and strength. Since the barrel will have to be furnished by a custom maker if bought new, I would select the 6.5 based on the .30-30.
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 22, 2021 10:21:58 GMT -5
Both the 6.5 and .257 JDJ‘s are outstanding, and I have both, but .225 Win. brass is very hard to come by … almost unobtainium new. I‘m thinking that Eben Brown‘s 6.5 BRM is on the .30-30 case. If I‘m correct, that would answer the caliber question for me. Of all the single shot actions though, the Easy-Open Contender, pre-G2, is my favorite, because of the adjustable trigger, and strength. Since the barrel will have to be furnished by a custom maker if bought new, I would select the 6.5 based on the .30-30. Agree with this 100% and dies can be ordered at the same time.
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Post by squawberryman on Sept 23, 2021 14:11:00 GMT -5
Always wanted an EABCO rifle
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Post by lockhart on Sept 23, 2021 20:32:44 GMT -5
It's my remembrance that Bert Stringfellow also designed the BF falling block. I bought mine from them, and Shirley Stringfellow took my phone order. I believe that E.B. Brown took over the manufactor of BF pistols later on. I was told by old silhouetter Bob Thomas, that BF stood for Berts Family.
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Post by sheriff on Sept 24, 2021 16:47:24 GMT -5
I own and shoot both the 6.5 BRM and Gary's 6.5 Raptor. Either will do what you want. I prefer the Contender action to the BF, but that's just a personal preference.
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Post by pacecars on Sept 24, 2021 16:48:30 GMT -5
Is the Raptor on the .204 case?
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 24, 2021 19:22:03 GMT -5
It's my remembrance that Bert Stringfellow also designed the BF falling block. I bought mine from them, and Shirley Stringfellow took my phone order. I believe that E.B. Brown took over the manufactor of BF pistols later on. I was told by old silhouetter Bob Thomas, that BF stood for Berts Family. ***** Did not know this. Crustly ole Bob Thomas, eh? Bob and another silhouetter rode flat-6 Honda bikes to IHMSA. Believe Thomas’s bike gun was an old big bore S&W or Colt double action. Thomas was not an especially smooth character, but the ole All-American wanted a reliable, smooth ride, so he wouldn't vibrate on the firing line. Bob and I with a couple others from the Austin area went to a silhouette shoot somewhere in Texas, repairing post-match to a quite fine Mexican festooned inside & out in deer antlers. Our tribe of of steel shooters taking a long table, diverse personalities ranging from sarcastic to mellow. One of the smoothest was a short Mexican-American----Renteria, something like that----who poise on the firing line drew my respect. On top of being a match director, I believe he made All-America; if not, should have. After ordering, several of us stepped to the bar. Man at my left shoulder stood over me five or six inches. Takes a pull on his beer, says, “Damn Yankee with a cowboy gun!” Believe I’ll not at this time repeat my answer. Bob Thomas loaded ammo on a Bonanza Co-Axial, a very smart piece of engineering. I published photos of Thomas loading his T/C Contender in Creedmoor position. He prints photos of mine for the Shooting Times writeup on Roy Weatherby’s MK V .308 Silhouette pistol. I copied his Lexan black dot insert for the Lyman 17A front sight on the Weatherby. He gave me one he made, which was better. Cheapest and probably the most widely distributed of globe sights, t he Lyman 17A sight of smaller diameter than the Redfield Olympic and International globe sights. I loaned Thomas the Weatherby for its tournament debut. As Bob Thomas steady racked clean scores with his Wichita .308 Winchester in Unlimited, I figured he’d go clean with the .308 Weatherby MK V. He leaked one, for a 39x40. I made the next match, with a 40x40, in time to wrap the article. Bob Thomas’s Wichita load of Speer 180 SP over 30/4895 turns 1800 fps from 14 or 15” barrel, with shootoff accuracy @ 200 meters. I used his dope to load for the Weatherby. David Bradshaw
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Post by 45MAN on Sept 25, 2021 5:38:04 GMT -5
DB: COOL REMEMBRANCES OF THE OLD IHMSA DAYS.
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Post by sheriff on Sept 25, 2021 11:22:24 GMT -5
Is the Raptor on the .204 case? Yes, or you can use the .222 Rem Mag case which is the parent case of the .204.
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Post by x101airborne on Sept 26, 2021 21:29:36 GMT -5
I bet a lot of 222 Rem Mag shooters are happy to know that!
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Post by z1r on Sept 27, 2021 8:13:23 GMT -5
Always wanted an EABCO rifle Had one made about 25 years or more ago in .32 H&R Magnum. It makes a fine rabbit and squirrel gun. Wanted a lever gun but Marlin hadn't yet introduced theirs and couldn't get anyone to guarantee a levergun conversion would feed so I opted for the SS.
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