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Post by Encore64 on Sept 6, 2021 19:48:26 GMT -5
I've been pondering this. Many old cartridges get the three count and are considered out before they're thru fighting.
The Midframe Flattops, like the FA97, suffer from bullet selection due to the short cylinder.
The 1.100" case length of the Schofield pretty much makes it a 45 Special of sorts.
We know shooting shorter cartridges in a long chamber is iffy about accuracy. Sometimes they shoot great, sometimes they don't.
There are some great powders for the medium length cartridges these days. I'm convinced loaded to 45 ACP Pressures the round would produce some impressive ballistics.
I'm considering this path in the future and curious what others think...
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Post by lscg on Sept 6, 2021 20:19:24 GMT -5
I like the idea of reviving the older cartridges. in a Ruger they really get a step up in performance.
I did some work a while back for Ruger forum member 17tombstone and I think he said the gun the grips were going on was a Bowen in 45 Schofield. Wouldn’t hurt to reach out. was on an OM flattop frame and was quite a looker.
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 6, 2021 20:27:56 GMT -5
In the Midframe Flattops I wouldn't want to load over 20-22,000 PSI. With many bullet designs, capacity would approach the 45 Colt with a design that seats deeper. The capacity between the bottom of a seated bullet and the bottom of the case is all that matters.
This leaves a lot of wiggle room for those with a Caliper and knowledge about Internal Ballistics.
I appreciate the input and the saga continues...
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Post by leadhound on Sept 6, 2021 21:22:32 GMT -5
YES! I like it! just because it's different. Thought about it myself, before I began the .401/10mm journey. Maybe one day when/if I return to my 45's. Also makes sense because of the efficiency of smokeless powders, fill the gap between the 45AR/ACP and 45 Colt.
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Post by taffin on Sept 6, 2021 22:14:25 GMT -5
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Post by dougader on Sept 6, 2021 22:59:48 GMT -5
I've had 45 S&W Schofield brass on backorder with Starline since about March. The only 45 Colt I have is a customized Montado and the short cylinder does mean you either deep seat the longer, heavier cast bullets or put them in shorter cases. I thought I'd try both.
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Post by bula on Sept 7, 2021 7:31:57 GMT -5
You came to the wrong place, asking for sensible ! Ha ! But I'm thinking Power Pistol or Longshot, CFE-P ?
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 7, 2021 7:33:09 GMT -5
You came to the wrong place, asking for sensible ! Ha ! But I'm thinking Power Pistol or Longshot, CFE-P ? Would be my first three powders to try. Probably throw in 2400 for nostalgia... |
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Post by 17tombstone on Sept 7, 2021 7:36:25 GMT -5
I am a big fan of the short cartridges in the OM flattops. As Zane said he just finished some sheep grips for my .45 Schofield OM Flatop. Also did the same thing with .44 SPL and a dedicated .44 Russian. No practical reason just think they are cool on the Old Models.
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 7, 2021 7:38:33 GMT -5
I am a big fan of the short cartridges in the OM flattops. As Zane said he just finished some sheep grips for my .45 Schofield OM Flatop. Also did the same thing with .44 SPL and a dedicated .44 Russian. No practical reason just think they are cool on the Old Models. Well, my available base gun is a NM Blackhawk Midframe Flattop. I do have one OM 357 Magnum left, but having other evil thoughts about it. |
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Post by RDW on Sept 7, 2021 8:57:55 GMT -5
I am a big fan of the short cartridges in the OM flattops. As Zane said he just finished some sheep grips for my .45 Schofield OM Flatop. Also did the same thing with .44 SPL and a dedicated .44 Russian. No practical reason just think they are cool on the Old Models. Well, my available base gun is a NM Blackhawk Midframe Flattop. I do have one OM 357 Magnum left, but having other evil thoughts about it. Huey, this is a one hole shooter in Schofield and acp (twin Cyl). One of my favorites and it has a long cylinder in case i decided to make one in colt. .JPG) |
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 7, 2021 9:05:04 GMT -5
That's an awesome gun Ronnie. In base guns, I have two left. A 5.5" Blued Midframe Flattop and a Birdshead 3.75" Vaquero. Both likely to become 45 Auto Rim or 45 Schofields...
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Post by leadhound on Sept 7, 2021 12:00:00 GMT -5
That's an awesome gun Ronnie. In base guns, I have two left. A 5.5" Blued Midframe Flattop and a Birdshead 3.75" Vaquero. Both likely to become 45 Auto Rim or 45 Schofields... Could always go and mark it 45 Short Colt and really mess with people. |
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Post by bushog on Sept 7, 2021 12:53:06 GMT -5
Think that schoefield would be a good option in the 45 Colt cylinder of the OM .357 conversion David is building?
Pros and cons between it and simply sticking mostly to the 45 AR cylinder?
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Post by Encore64 on Sept 7, 2021 13:00:02 GMT -5
Think that schoefield would be a good option in the 45 Colt cylinder of the OM .357 conversion David is building? Pros and cons between it and simply sticking mostly to the 45 AR cylinder? For me, the Pro would be easily matching the power of the 45 Colt without restricting the bullet selection so much. The Con would be not being able to use 45 ACP like you can in the Auto Rim... |
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