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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Aug 3, 2021 17:48:36 GMT -5
Hello gentleman,
I have two scopes that I am intent on mounting onto a couple of big bore revolvers. One is a Burris I bought from Whitworth and I'm confident is as tough as a $2 steak! The other is made by Swift and I have read some folks that say they hold up to the worst recoil. Some others say a .44 Magnum will kill it. It was on sale when I bought it and I decided to take a chance as most folks said it was solid. But that brings me to what revolvers I will add these scopes too. One gun I already know I want to scope is my Smith & Wesson 460XVR PC with a 7.5" barrel. Here are my other three contenders:
- MRI BFR .500 S&W Magnum with 10.5" barrel
- MRI BFR .475 Linebaugh with a 7" barrel
- Ruger Super Redhawk in .454 Casull with a 7.5" barrel
- MRI Desert Eagle in .429 DE with a 6" barrel
I'd really prefer to go with one of the BFRs. But here's the question. Between the .460 S&W Magnum, .500 S&W Magnum, .475 Linebaugh, .454 Casull, .and 429 DE, what are the hardest on scopes, in order from hardest to easiest? Or does it matter? I just wanted to get your opinions on what you thing would be the best for the Burris (the hardest) and for the Swift. Let me know what you think, guys. Any input is very much appreciated.
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Post by Lee Martin on Aug 3, 2021 18:00:04 GMT -5
Tough to say which is the hardest on scopes. I will say this.....sometimes the lower end models do better than you think. I used a lot of Weavers on big handguns. This old 4X has held-up well to a ton of .500 S&W Magnum (and I never downloaded that round).  I also put a Simmons on a .416 JDJ Contender in 1999 because: 1) I already had the scope, and 2) I was curious to see if it would take the abuse. 22 years later, it's still holds POA and tracks.  So flip a coin. But if I had to guess as to the most abrupt recoil of the bunch (and that's what pegs scopes), I'll say either the .454 or .475. The S&W porting on the .500 cuts things a bit. Plus there's more weight. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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Post by jfs on Aug 3, 2021 18:18:54 GMT -5
Between the weight and muzzle brake on my S&W 460, I`ve found it to be pretty easy on the mounted 2-7X Burris... However, my FA`s 454 carries a Leupold variable on a TSOB base with four Weigand mag rings... I destroyed a beautiful Bausch & Lomb variable (I believe that was my fault) after 3 shots on that handgun because I only had two front rings and one rear. The tube separated from turent housing.....
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Post by squigz on Aug 4, 2021 7:57:35 GMT -5
Usually when I'm seeing Tasco, Simmons, Weaver, Bushnell etc. handgun scopes I try to pick them up regardless of the brand.
I'm ashamed to admit, I take more of a pause buying a Leupold/Burris mostly because they're commanding in price even on the used market and I do so well with the much cheaper "off" brands.
I have several cheaper scopes on heavier recoiling guns and haven't had one fail yet, so I'm just going to continue my path since it's been working thus far..
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Post by bigbrowndog on Aug 4, 2021 8:52:45 GMT -5
You never know,......I’ve got a super cheap BSA red dot that was mounted on a custom Marlin 18” 4570 for years and years,....its still going strong, but has been retired to an easier life on a 22lr.
A few hundred 300-405 grain loads in the 1950-1800fps range.
Trapr
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Post by lockhart on Sept 13, 2021 11:15:19 GMT -5
I think it depends on the particular firearm. I put a BSA red dot on my
Desert Eagle .50AE, and it lasted exactly TWO shots! Whole thing came
apart. I've got an old cheap 2x Simmons and it went through over 500 rounds
of HOT .50AE and is still kicking. Just have to try and see what works for
your pistol.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Sept 16, 2021 14:08:35 GMT -5
AS far as recoil abuse... if you are frame / grip frame mounting that Desert Eagle it's like in the same class as the others... if you are slide mounting on that one, I've fount the 2 directions the slide exerts to be the most abusive...
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Sept 18, 2021 18:36:04 GMT -5
Forgot to update... I put my Burris on my .500 S&W Magnum BFR. Need to sight it in. I'm planning on putting the Swift on the .460 S&W Magnum 460XVR P.C. I really appreciate all of the input.
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Post by taffin on Sept 18, 2021 22:30:41 GMT -5
I'd really prefer to go with one of the BFRs. But here's the question. Between the .460 S&W Magnum, .500 S&W Magnum, .475 Linebaugh, .454 Casull, .and 429 DE, what are the hardest on scopes, in order from hardest to easiest? Or does it matter? I just wanted to get your opinions on what you thing would be the best for the Burris (the hardest) and for the Swift. Let me know what you think, guys. Any input is very much appreciated.[/quote]
QUALITY SCOPES DON'T CARE.
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Post by jeffh on Sept 19, 2021 8:42:58 GMT -5
Along the lines,....
Best friend/kinda brother stopped yesterday to show off his 500 S&W Encore pistol and 44 Mag Super Redhawk.
He bought new scopes recently and I kept my mouth shut about it - Korean Weaver on the Redhawk and Philippine Burris on the Encore.
I have a wide variety of common scopes myself and stopped buying Weavers when they stopped getting them from Japan. I've returned two Philippine scopes which were like looking through a dirty fishbowl.
I must admit that the Weaver was VERY clear and bright - impressively so.
The Burris was as good in that respect.
As for the relativity to the thread, His first shot out of the 500 S&W Encore brought the objective smashing into the top of his head. He was quite embarrassed to admit it and sat at the bench for some time after recovering. When he inspected the scope, he'd dented the objective bell. He's a hard-headed old boy.
He returned the scope to Burris and told them what he'd done and that he'd pay for repair/replacement, but needed to know if his head was hard enough to ruin a scope.
Apparently not. Burris checked it over and returned it saying that it was just an aesthetic dent and there was no functional damage to the scope.
He is shooting a 440 grain cast bullet over a slightly below-max dose of WC-820.
I'm still going to stick with drawing the line at older American scopes or Japanese scopes myself, but I was surprised that he has two outside of that criterion which are holding up under some stiff recoil.
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Post by lockhart on Sept 19, 2021 14:47:17 GMT -5
I don't think ANY scope would take the punishment from a DE with the scope mounted
to the SLIDE. The scope mounts to the barrel.
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Post by lockhart on Sept 27, 2021 11:19:08 GMT -5
Of the guns mentioned in original post, I think the Ruger Super Redhawk would
be the WORST! I had one of those years ago in .454, and even with the rubber
grips & a glove, that thing was a beast to shoot. Got rid of it, and got one in
.480 Ruger. Much better, even with 400 grain bullets.
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 27, 2021 16:55:33 GMT -5
Pocket pool shooters commonly mounted the 1X and 2X Burris on the slide of our 1911 45ACP wadcutter guns. Shot thousands of rounds a year. Never had one fail...
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Post by lockhart on Oct 24, 2021 14:28:39 GMT -5
Lot's of difference between the slide speed & power of any 1911 compared to the
slide speed & power of a .50AE Desert Eagle, I would think.
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Post by bigbore5 on Oct 26, 2021 3:33:59 GMT -5
Lot's of difference between the slide speed & power of any 1911 compared to the slide speed & power of a .50AE Desert Eagle, I would think. Being the desert eagle uses a delayed gas system, it's slide speed is no faster than the 1911 and has a softer impulse. The engineering is amazing. Just stick to jacketed bullets or it'll become a very expensive single shot permanently |
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